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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

People have to hope Harris willing to change her mind after praising Dick Cheney and ass kissing Israel every time she is near a mic. I don't see that happening at all.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

The difference is that even if Harris continues the policies of the Biden administration, the American citizens should feel safe enough to protest those policies and maybe something will change?

Under a trump administration the idea of people being able to protest safely is less certain.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 hours ago

"The American citizens should feel safe enough to ignore the issue because they are not impacted by it".

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world -3 points 10 hours ago

Protesting is becoming more criminalized under this admin. We just witnessed state violence against college students and protesters are getting hit with Rico charges. I wouldn't say they are more safe protesting under either admin.

[-] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

You're right there has been some shitty things happening to protestors that for the most part have shown great restraint with the way they're protesting. But an honest question, is this a feature of the Biden administration or are the crack downs happening at a more local level?

Because what I have seen and heard about from trump and his lessor demons is the desire to make protests illegal on a Federal level and to uphold that idea with state sponsored violence.

There is an argument to be made that Biden, as President to all Americans, should be making a statement to condemn these violent acts against mostly peaceful protestors at the very least and I have not seen that from him which is disappointing. But yet he and his administration have not in any way pushed for legislation to outlaw the protests. Nor has he tried to coerce the media from reporting on it. I don't have faith that a trump administration would do that.

I also understand why people are frustrated that the best we have is "well we will let you protest (with a little violence), but we will not really listen to you." But at least we get to stay on the path of democracy and hopefully there can be better candidates that can start to shift the focus in a different, better direction. As much as people want big changes to happen right now, unfortunately the country is too big and too entrenched for that to be reality. BUT it can change if we can keep it from becoming a dictatorship.

The fact that so many people refuse to recognize the chilling effect and implicit threat of AIPAC in the context of the election vis a vis “what you say about supporting Israel” continues to baffle me. Like, if any candidate says anything sharply critical of Israel, they’ll take their dump truck of money and just give it to the other candidate. That’s the game. That’s it.

Being reticent/“status quo” about Israel in the context of the campaign is (tragically, but also directly due to Citizens United and effectively uncontrolled political spending) is the best play here, and I hope her actual policy is materially different from the status quo. But I recognize she simply can’t say that unless she wants to score a campaign finance own-goal on herself.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -3 points 10 hours ago

The fact that so many people refuse to recognize the chilling effect and implicit threat of AIPAC in the context of the election vis a vis “what you say about supporting Israel” continues to baffle me.

Oh, we're not. We see that the centrist wing of the party is fucking delighted to support genocide in exchange for AIPAC shoveling money at centrist challengers to progressive incumbents.

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