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War never changes (lemmy.world)
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[-] april@lemmy.world 84 points 3 days ago

Why do they always send the poor?

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 36 points 3 days ago

Why don't presidents fight the war?

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

America places a lot of value in the concept of the person having the final say over our armed forces being a civilian. There are multiple very good reasons for that.

Multiple presidents have served in the military prior to becoming president, many of whom have seen combat. The last American president to do so was George HW Bush, who served in the air force and was shot down over the Pacific in WW2.

As to why that hasn't happened more recently, it's because the American people don't see it as a priority. HW Bush was replaced by Bill Clinton. W Bush won over purple heart recipient John Kerry. Obama won over veteran and POW John McCain. Clinton, Bush, and Trump went even farther and essentially dodged the draft.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I saw a picture of George Washington leading troops on a crappy boat. Why isn't Biden out on a crappy boat somewhere? Lol

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Because he wasn’t president then. Eisenhower led troops as did Grant

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

George Washington did lead troops one time as president, with the secretary of the Treasury at his side.

There was a little revolt over taxes on whiskey and when he showed up they surrendered.

[-] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

The joke was that Biden is really old.

[-] MinusPi@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

Why wasn't Trump? Why wasn't Obama? Why wasn't Bush? It's hardly just Biden.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I wasn't singling him out he is just the current president and I can't imagine him in that position lol.

I like Joe.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Was Washington leading troops after he became president though?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Alexander the Great was the first over the wall when invading a city.

Edit: source

[-] match@pawb.social 13 points 3 days ago
[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

Yea there's no way the first person over a wall wouldn't get immediately mercd by everyone on top who isn't fighting anyone yet.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

He was! He took an arrow to the lung and they thought he was dead!

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Generals gathered in their masses. Just like witches at black masses.

[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Barbarisms by barbaras, with pointed heels

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Because they're worth less, obviously!

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Great question. See, a farmer can't stay behind and command the state because he is a farmer. The heads of state and the elite cannot all perish in trenches because then all that would remain are farmers. Established heirarchy for organizational power was invented probably by whatever primates we evolved from, and is observed among even some other species of primate.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Our country was built on well educated farmers taking up positions of governance. We'd be fine.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[-] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

A country without farmers will perish, a country without "elites" will make do.

[-] BMTea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well... a country without "elites" and only farmers will very quickly find itself with a set of elites, from another country, who can organize their farmers to take and conquer others' farmland.

this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2024
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