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Are you tired of going into controversial threads and having people not discuss things, circlejerking, or using emotional responses in place of logic? Us too.
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This weekly thread will focus on Helping Us Fix Weekly Topics. This Community seems to have a problem. I generally do my best to create open-ended topics that don't lead the reader to respond in any specific way, all while providing what I think are interesting starters. I've purposely picked other moderators that do not think the same as I do on many topics, but have the skill to explain why they feel the way they do. Results of all of this seem to be extremely limited.
If I try and introduce some opinion in a topic for people to pick at (even if I don't believe it), they tend to get very aggressive and seem to insult moreso than discuss. They focus on moral arguments instead of logical ones and abandon discussions when challenged which sort of defeats the purpose (and goes against the rules) of the entire Community to begin with.
Some Starters (and don’t feel you have to speak on all or any of them if you don’t care to):
- Can we do anything with moderation or rules to help encourage you to respond more?
- Are there any format changes you'd like to see that may help?
- Do you ever feel that Lemmy is a more aggressive form of social media and therefore limit your discussion?
- Does the activist nature of Lemmy help or hurt further adoption?
- What topics would you like to see covered?
- Is Lemmy even a good platform for discussion to begin with?
- Would you like to be a mod and help out?
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Thank you for the reply. The majority of my thoughts were very much in line with what you said and it's sort of what I feared.
I'm not sure how to continue with things as they are as it feels like trying to start a dialogue with a wall at times. I hadn't considered mobile platforms as part of the issue, but you are most likely correct.
Not to say it's not possible to successfully run the type of community you're seeking, but fostering it is going to feel like an uphill battle for a very long time.
Beehaw has tried to promote a similar moderation heavy and discussion based platform and also ran into issues with Lemmy as a whole. Last I knew they were creating their own platform rather than staying, but that was because of ideological differences with the developers and lack of moderation tools.