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This case is quite similar with Disney+ case.

You press 'Agree', you lost the right to sue the company.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 183 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Forced arbitration is unjust and should be outlawed. It's only legal in 7 other countries: UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, Saudi Arabia, China and India.

That's right: 4 countries that are essentially US lapdogs, two dictatorships and one that's on the fast track towards becoming one.

Also, you can totally see how America is so much better and totally different than China. The more I look at both, the less I can tell the difference.

But at least in the United States, there is hope.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 64 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not really legal in the UK. It's unenforceable on claims under 5k and for claims over 5k the courts will make a case by case decision if arbitration is appropriate.

https://www.herbertsmithfreehills.com/insights/reports/inside-arbitration/click-to-agree-technology-and-consumer-arbitration

However, lots of companies still add these bullshit clauses as a way to bully people out of seeing a lawyer.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For sure and, even then, in uk law, you can't sign away your freedom to take regular legal action against someone who caused you damage, due to their illegal actions. Something like the one in the article would be, rightly, dismissed as a repugnant clause.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it really called a “repugnant clause?”

Lol yeah, what these sorts of things would be dismissed as is literally called a "repugnant clause."

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It should be illegal for companies with a legal budget over X€ to have illegal clauses on their terms and conditions.

[–] anonymous111@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

FYI it is the other way around. The British Empire spread Common Law around the world. Here is a Wikipedia's Page (Common Law section) which explains the spread:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_legal_systems

This is why we occasionally get courts referring to Ancient precedents from England.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lapdogs

The Whitehouse is 12 years overdue for its 200-year reno. Are you angling to get it done for free?

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Just gonna leave this here....

Edit: guess some folk are still pissed about the war of 1812.... Either that or they really hate The Arrogant Worms...

[–] Taiatari@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US has twice as many parties as China. If that ain't a major difference then I don't what is /s

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Caught yer /s and adding to it a variation of the quote that usually goes here:

The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.

-Noam Chomsky

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

That was true through the Obama administration.

I don’t know what is going on now.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

There's the Left Butt Cheek Party and the Right Butt Check Party, both from the same ass hence why you get the same shit from both.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Off topic, but since this is Lemmy, I choose to interpret your political assessment as,

  • 4 US lapdogs: UK, Saudi Arabia, China and India
  • 2 dictatorships: Canada and Australia
  • fast becoming a dictatorship: Ireland.
[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you look at the list all those countries were influenced or under control by the British Empire.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I mean, that's true, but correlation v causation and all that. The list of countries "owned or influenced by" the British Empire includes a lot more than just these 7, and yet the forced arbitration club is a small one, so I'm not 100% sure I agree with your police work there, Hal.