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Thunderbird Beta for Android is now out! (github.com)
submitted 2 months ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/firefox@lemmy.ml
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#Features

  • Thunderbird for Android branding is now available

  • Material 3 Navigation drawer

  • Updated color scheme

  • Allow migrating settings directly from an existing K-9 or Thunderbird for Android install

  • Make use of Glean SDK

  • Add basic feature setup for funding via Google Play subscriptions (we'll use this for financial contributions)

  • Use [...] for outer subject when encrypting the subject

  • Remove "Move/copy destination folders" setting

  • Remove "Folders to search" setting

  • Remove folder push class to simplify folder notifications

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[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

NGL https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email is a lot better...

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And here I thought K9's design looked a decade outdated already

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean? This is perfectly modern. Material UI and minimal, outline style icon theme. That's all the rage with web devs nowadays. Amazing.

(Not that there's anything wrong with that in this case, that's the Android style after all. But personally I heavily dislike Material UI.)

I would say that this UI is ugly though. Spacing is all over the place, the icons don't look cohesive at all apart from the colors used (for example, rounded vs sharp corners), the yellowed paper looking background color, overuse of bold/italic/colored text (especially multiple of those at the same time), inconsistent display of the same thing (in one screenshot the mailbox name is displayed as "Gmail", in the other as "[Gmail]"). And so on.

But that doesn't mean it's "outdated", this would have been equally as bad 10 years ago.

(I just have a knee jerk reaction to people saying "outdated UI" because usually it's used as a justification to replacing perfectly well designed UI with a worse version just so that it follows contemporary design trends. Cf the Windows Settings app.)

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

they probably said that because its kinda ugly, but also follows the frutiger metro trend from a decade ago

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

The app uses Material UI, sure, but it's anything but minimalist. It feels the dev(s) tried to use and cram as much as possible from what's available from the design without really thinking of usability. Information density HAS to be lower when using a phone, since the screens as much smaller than a monitor and you don't have as much precision when using fingers to navigate around.

[–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's half the reason I like Thunderbird. Email hasn't changed for 20 years, and neither has Thunderbird's interface. I don't need shadows and 3D effects and stylised colours and buttons, I just want a white page with black text displaying the content of my incoming messages.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

You seem to be a function over form person, and I'm a function and form person. Surely, email hasn't changed since ever and all I need to see it's contents is a white page with black text, but that doesn't mean everything else has too look bad or lacking meanwhile, specially on a phone.

[–] InfiniWheel@lemmy.one 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

FairEmail design looks modern. Its just ugly and way too busy

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Busy is fine. It is just really poorly laid out in a ton of ways.

Despite that, still my manl mail client on phone.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If "modern" means Android 5, sure.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

it's fully customizable. After some tweaking you can get it to be more minimal and clean than K9 or any other client

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Better how? There's no right or wrong answer, I had both.

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The menus are definitely busy and confusing (there are many options), but once it's set up I've never been bothered by the UI. I quite like how emails are shown OOTB in fact, with the right padding and day separation; I also use most buttons that are offered by default. So yeah, sane defaults.

Off the top of my head what I like:

  • you can search emails on the server! That's the one feature I couldn't forgo
  • it detects unsubscribe links
  • I remember having delays when using K9, with FairEmail not once. This could be fixed now
  • it cleverly shows you're connected to a VPN (which can be a problem with emails)
  • maybe too many options, but a lot are actually useful

Not trying to say it's better, to each their own. But it's great.

edit: I received an email at 06:19 in fairemail. it's now 06:56 and I just received it in thunderbird

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Not bad for a mail client for the early 2000s.