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Replacing a broken set of blinds in my house and apparently no one sells the old standard kind where you pull the cord to raise them, I guess because kids and/or pets could tangle in the cord? Bit of an education in miniblinds today.

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[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

More like if you contextualize the incidents of bicycles and pedestrians with cars, you might realize they're safer than you think. This is absolutely false for cars and pedestrians though in America at least.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago
[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Well, nothing is 100% safe, and we allow plenty of things that are demonstrably unsafe to continue. So if you compare bike-car collisions against say, firearm suicides in the US, you'll see that bike-car collisions aren't that bad.

The fundamental argument is that nothing is totally safe, but some things are safer than others.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

so by your logic since nothing is as bad as [choose any cause of death], we should just... give up on improving safety?

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Does no threshold for the rate of any cause of death justify improving safety?

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I legitimately don't understand your question. If you're asking if the cost to improve safety may be too great in some cases, yes that is true in some cases. But you haven't made that case in this specific instance yet.

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Well, you asked if I was arguing against improving safety when compared to fatality rates for any activity.

But for me to have made that argument, I'd have to have said that there is no rate of fatality that would justify improving safety. So, I was asking if you think that's true:

Does no threshold for the rate of any cause of death justify improving safety?

But I sucked at wording it clearly. That's on me.

In short, no, I'm not arguing that. Really, I was just clarifying what the person you responded to was saying. I'm not making an argument either way.

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