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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's barely even an analogy. They are both poison. They both kill you.

Consult Rule 5 before continuing. And consider actually engaging with the points you disagree with instead of just saying, effectively, "I disagree," but snottier.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Poor exercise and sedentary lifestyle kills you. Not meat. Plenty of otherwise valid discussion and criticisms to be had instead of just making things up along with absurd comparisons that make you look insane.

But that's okay, if that's enough to be actionable then I'll be pretty able to accept that you just don't like people calling you out and need a safe space from criticism.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

But that’s okay, if that’s enough to be actionable then I’ll be pretty able to accept that you just don’t like people calling you out and need a safe space from criticism.

This is disingenuous. If you go on a Star Trek forum and only want to talk about Star Wars, are moderators creating a "safe space" or are they just being fucking moderators? The rules are clearly posted. Don't act so wounded.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Poor exercise and sedentary lifestyle kills you. Not meat.

This is just so ignorant I have to come back to it. We're specifically talking about heart attacks. You know, the widow maker. The thing that kills otherwise healthy men in the primes of their lives. Body builders, fire fighters, people who exercise every day. Sitting around not exercising does not cause you to have heart disease. Where the fuck is the plaque supposed to come from if you are not eating animal products?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I'm not arguing that red meat is bad for you, first off - I'm not the person you were talking to.

That being said - exercise is absolutely connected to lower plaque build up. Actually, many of the comorbidities associated with eating red meat can be fought with exercise.

This idea that sedentary lifestyles are somehow supported and healthy by vegan diets strikes me as borderline 'ADHD is a superpower' bullshit.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Making it up, eh? Or are you sticking your head in the sand? lmgtfy

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=all+cause+mortality+meat&ia=web

I suppose you are unaware that there are entire cultures that do not suffer heart attacks. I suppose you are unaware that there is a direct causal relationship between those cultures starting to have heart attacks like Western cultures, and the adoption of Western animal product consumption habits. One third of humans who die this year will die of heart attacks that would not happen if they didn't consume animal products. It tracks directly with animal consumption. The data is all there if you are brave enough to look. But I guess you need a safe space from facts.