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[-] thantik@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry, but your argument is simply incorrect. It is not merely "my interpretation" as claimed. It's the interpretation of literally every person in this thread so far...with exception of yourself. I don't need to bother with the rest of your reply, because it all relies on the first claim being accurate, which it is not. You are attempting to change what the title is saying by interpreting it intentionally differently than everyone else has thus far. At least argue in good faith here.

[-] leraje@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I am, I admit, playing devils advocate a bit.

You keep saying how much you value logic and fact. I'm (disingenuously, I admit) pointing out to you that stripped of all context, the title of this meme simply states that one group has hurt kids and doesn't say only one group. It's literally factual to say that, but - as you say - not accurate because context matters, right?

I'm trying to get you to see that there's nuance and shades of grey that goes beyond facts and touches (as I said ages ago) on the spirit of the meme. (And really, it is just a meme, do they live and die by pure facts? Clearly not based on most of them).

I don't think anyone is claiming that there's a non-zero amount of drag artists who've hurt kids. But you saying 'both?' is not really taking account of various nuances and contexts, such as - is there even enough drag artists who've hurt kids to classify them as a group? Could it be that some of them were pedo's who, after offending and doing time and being released realised that glomming onto the drag artist community was a way to get close to kids now?

We don't factually know. That's why it's difficult to understand why you say 'both?' in a way that infers both are groups that represent their respective communities or are somehow equal.

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