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[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m wrong that I don’t believe you?

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said I approve of those groups, yet you say I did. So your conclusion is based on something I never said.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You approve a group as described, so as described, you’re the Nazi.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do? I never said that. I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them. But somehow you keep saying I approve of them and keep calling me a nazi. So you're just a troll. Well, you got me to respond so that's a win for you I guess.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I do not approve of nazis, I fight against them.

Except when you’re fighting against those who fight them. Like Israel.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel is a right wing extremist state, the last state where apartheid exists, a state annexing land out of greed, a state murdering people from another ethnicity on a mass scale (we call this genocide), committing war crimes and crimes against humanity like torture and bombing schools, hospitals, humanitarian aid and refugee camps. They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.

And please note it's the Israeli state which talks and acts like a nazi. Not Jewish people in general, not every Israeli inhabitant. Just the state and anyone who supports the state.

[–] crashfrog@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Israel is a right wing extremist state

Large portions of Israel have been radicalized by enduring eight decades of genocidal violence from colonialist Arabs, funded by an extremist faith in Iran that holds the extinction of the Jews as a key requirement of imminentizing their eschaton. I don’t deny that. But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it. Maybe the Arab neighbors of Israel should try something besides mass killing Jews?

They do not fight nazis, they are the nazis.

No, they fight Nazis. Arab Nazis who torture Jews, Arab Nazis who hide in schools, hospitals, and refugee camps. Arab Nazis who turn humanitarian aid into missiles to kill Jews. The exact same Arabs who allied with Hitler in World War II (proven historical fact) and love him to this day.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're calling the opposition of an extreme nationalistic state nazis.

But post October 7, it’s hard to argue they’re overreacting to it.

Apartheid isn't overreacting? Enclosing millions in a ghetto, limiting their food, water and electricity is not against human rights? Constantly stealing land is just fine? Stripping people of their rights is just? Torture is good for the right cause? Financing a terrorist organisation like Hamas to continue crimes against humanity isn't wrong?

Except for the concentration camps, they do everything exactly as nazi Germany did. Putting everyone in ghettos, stripping them of their rights, denying them in shops and public places, steal everything from them, torturing them, falsely imprison them without cause or trial, etc. But instead of concentration camps they bomb schools, hospitals, aid workers, refugee camps. They cut them off from drinking water, food transports, electricity. When you find Israel just in their crimes against humanity, during and/or before the war, you're no better then Hitler himself.

Please note I'm not pro Hamas. They are terrorists. But they are a product of the years and years of oppression, apartheid and humanitarian crisis created by the Israeli state.

There is no right or wrong here. There is only wrong and millions of innocent civilians (on both sides but mostly on the Palistinian side).