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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I’m not voting for Harris. I’m voting against Trump via Harris.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm voting FOR Harris in the same way I was previously voting FOR Biden. Biden/Harris & Harris/Walz support policies that most closely match those policies I support.

If Trump died tomorrow I still wouldn't support Vance or any other Republican because they support policies that I am strongly opposed to.

I would like to have more options, but realistically those are my choices.

I don't have to agree with Harris/Walz on 100% if issues. I'm allowed to criticize them. But at the end of the day I'm voting FOR something and not just against the worst possible choice.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Given that she has the same stance on Gaza / Palestine as Biden, I vote against the orange bad rather than for her.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I agree that is a fucking terrible stance. It's fair to criticize them both for that stance and, especially after the election, we should all push them hard to change their stance.

It is absolutely shitty that they won't charge until after the election (if ever). Yes. Is it fair? No. Is it likely the only chance? Yes.

[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Single issue voters are hilarious. That's how we got here.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

My comment said that I'm voting against my conscience wrt Palestine, so your comment doesn't really make sense.

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm voting for Harris i like the money for middle class people thing

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

There currently is no middle class. There's people that think they are still middle class, but they are struggling just as much as they poor.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I hope you never suffer an illness or injury that suddenly thrusts you into the group of working poor, living out of the car, couch surfing or sleeping rough.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

American mercenary healthcare is the primary reason I abandoned my green card efforts. It just wasn't worth the risk that a car accident could render me homeless.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 month ago

The average American tax payer individuals who make less than a certain amount get nothing in return. If we got services instead of global war, I believe very few would have an issue with taxes.

[–] GlobalCompatriot@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they have no clue how close to reality that is for all of them.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

We know. I have plenty of my own cognitive dissonance to sort.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 month ago

i hope so too yes :c

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

By the math, just the economic policy changes will give the non-rich a bit of a boost.