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I just moved into a student dorm for a semester abroad, and beforehand I emailed them asking whether they had ethernet ports to plug my router into (I use it to connect all my devices, and for WiVRn VR streaming). They confirmed that I could, but now that I'm here the wifi login portal is asking me to accept these terms from the ISP, which forbid plugging in a router. There's another clause that forbids "Disruptive Devices" entirely, defined as:

“Disruptive Device” means any device that prevents or interferes with our provision of the 4Wireless to other customers (such as a wireless access point such as wireless routers) or any other device used by you in breach of the Acceptable Use Policy;

So what are my options? I don't think I can use this service without accepting the terms, but also I was told by the student dorm support that I could bring a router, which contradicts this.

EDIT: some additional context:

  • dorm provider is a company separate from my uni (they have an agreement but that's it)
  • ISP (ask4) is totally separate from dorm provider, and have installed a mesh network that requires an account. On account creation, there are many upsells including one for connecting more than one device. The "free" plan only allows me to sign in on a single device, and I can upgrade to two devices for 15 pounds.
  • ethernet requires login too
  • VR streaming requires a high performance wifi 6 network, which is why I bought this router (Archer C6 from tp-link)
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[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I see, I thought routers knew not to do dhcp on the Wan port

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Typically they do. Which is great until you get a student who doesn’t understand WAN vs LAN and plugs both connections into the LAN ports. Never underestimate the power of a Stupid User.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

They do know enough to not send DHCP leases upstream..

[–] flappy@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you plug the dorm ethernet jack into the LAN side of a consumer router, there's a chance they don't.

Sure, you can catch this if you watch the dhcp leases your router is handing out, but..

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming OP is at least smart enough to know that the port that's on its own/a different color/somehow different from the others is the one that goes into the wall. It sounds like they have at least that level of competence.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m sure OP is given the more technical nature of Lemmy users. But this thread is about the average college student with no networking knowledge.

ETA: Sorry that I specified you weren’t talking about the same thing the rest of us were in this thread.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Which is all well and good until you get someone who plugs both connections into the LAN ports.

Downvoting just because I pointed out a scenario you didn’t think of isn’t so classy.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. I'm downvoting because your first comments stated it will happen if the router is set up to offer leases. Not that it could happen if a user ignores the quick start guide that says "plug this port into the wall." Then got all pissy with that other guy who pointed out that your article was about DHCP servers, not routers.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

I’m not getting pissy about anything. That’s projection on your part, reading a tone that wasn’t there. Just because you’re in a bad mood today doesn’t mean the rest of the internet is.