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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dunno man, I generally don’t support policies that exist just make life difficult for people who are already at a disadvantage.

There are so many roadblocks preventing these people from fixing their situation, and the State of California has no power to help them rectify it.

The cost of this program would be pretty negligible compared to other frivolous government spending, which I’m sure you’re equally vocally opposed to.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The circumstances of this people isn't the problem though. It's the fact that they are eligible at all that is the toxic component.

You'll never be able to get enough public support behind anything like this when you know that there's a large segment of voters crossing party lines who this pisses off. The root cause of citizenship is still the problem.

If you think that his is designed to make it harder for people, you're mistaken. It should be working for citizens first. We can't be making social policies that don't already fix problems of the citizens, and then go a step further to include larger population segments. Our government shouldn't be fixing everyone else's problems when we can't even help our own people.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Immigrants are “our own people”.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Says who? The government certainly says they aren't. Just because you may be related to them in some way doesn't mean municipal programs and funds should exist for them. They aren't even registered as refugee, alien, or asylum seekers if they are undocumented. Why should they be allowed to then receive help or funds from government run social programs in lieu of full citizens?

On either side of the political spectrum you have people that don't want this. I'd like a better path for these people as well, but not in this way either. Regardless of taxpayer status, there are still laws, and the people this would benefit have intentionally disregarded those laws, and that shouldn't be rewarded. Especially not in California when practically nobody except the highest earning families can afford permanent housing.