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[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The world was deeply afraid of Marxism. When Russia experienced a workers-led revolution in 1917, Western powers were terrified of the spread of Marxist ideas and the potential threat they posed to the capitalist world order. In response, several Western states, along with their client states, sent their armies into Russia, aiming to overthrow the newly established worker-run government under the Bolsheviks. We attacked first, in an effort to suppress a system we feared.

This antagonism continued and evolved over the decades, culminating in the Cold War, where tensions between the Soviet Union and the West defined global politics. The Cuban Missile Crisis stands out as a key moment in this conflict. In fact, it was the United States that, in violation of international norms and against the Geneva Convention, installed nuclear launch sites along Russia's borders in Turkey, heightening the threat and contributing to the Soviet response of placing missiles in Cuba.

Historically, it's clear that we have been antagonistic towards Russia, driven by a fear of communism and a desire to maintain Western dominance. This pattern of confrontation has had long-lasting effects on the geopolitical landscape, contributing to the strained relations that persist today.

Dont take my word for this stuff, you can easily find information online, in text books.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not to defend Western European imperialism in Russia because fuck that but no one did more to destroy the newly established worker-run government than the Bolsheviks. I'm assuming you're a ML--unfortunately they don't allow factual discussions of history, so you'll need to read some history outside of the thought bubble to learn the truth.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trotskyist, so all up for discussion and challenging my understanding. Point me in the direction.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

A lot of it is from many articles and podcasts I’ve read but here’s a decent if long overview. https://blackrosefed.org/workers-power-and-the-russian-revolution/

If you prefer an audio format, I recommend this video (the visuals are optional so I usually listen in the background). https://youtu.be/uwU3STgBknQ

The whole series is worth a listen but would be a big time commitment.