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TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — China accused the United States of turning Taiwan into an “ammunition depot” after the White House announced a $345 million military aid package for Taipei, and the self-ruled island said Sunday it tracked six Chinese navy ships in waters off its shores.

China’s Taiwan Affairs Office issued a statement late Saturday opposing the military aid to Taiwan, which China claims as its own territory.

“No matter how much of the ordinary people’s taxpayer money the ... Taiwanese separatist forces spend, no matter how many U.S. weapons, it will not shake our resolve to solve the Taiwan problem. Or shake our firm will to realize the reunification of our motherland,” said Chen Binhua, a spokesperson for the Taiwan Affairs Office.

“Their actions are turning Taiwan into a powder keg and ammunition depot, aggravating the threat of war in the Taiwan Strait,” the statement said.

China’s People’s Liberation Army has increased its military maneuvers in recent years aimed at Taiwan, sending fighter jets and warships to circle the island.

On Sunday, Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said it tracked six Chinese navy ships near the island.

Taiwan’s ruling administration, led by the Democratic Progressive Party, has stepped up its weapons purchases from the U.S. as part of a deterrence strategy against a Chinese invasion.

China and Taiwan split amid civil war in 1949, and Taiwan has never been governed by China’s ruling Communist Party.

Unlike previous military purchases, the latest batch of aid is part of a presidential authority approved by the U.S. Congress last year to draw weapons from current U.S. military stockpiles — so Taiwan will not have to wait for military production and sales.

While Taiwan has purchased $19 billion worth of weaponry, much of it has yet to be delivered to Taiwan. Washington will send man-portable air defense systems, intelligence and surveillance capabilities, firearms and missiles to Taiwan.

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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Huh? No it's not cultural insensitivity preventing me from having an opinion on that, it's having very little contextual knowledge.

Why are you saying something that I did not say? The part that was probably culturally insensitive was clearly the part about indigenous people owning the island, I have no idea what they want, whether that's true, or whether nationalism is even compatible with their culture.

You are doing the thing people do on reddit where they ignore what someone actually writes and then substitute it with the worst possible interpretation that you want to attack. You're really not having a conversation with me in good faith are you? The hostility is entirely unnecessary, childish even.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I have no idea what they want, whether that’s true, or whether nationalism is even compatible with their culture.

But you do have an idea what the Taiwanese want, and it isn't a Chinese invasion, so why aren't you condemning China for their hostile actions and threatening behavior?

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Are we going to go around in circles here? Because the drum beating is being driven by the foreign interference. If the US steps back from trying to interfere with it politically then there will no longer be any need to beat the drums. In the preceding 50 years there was basically no problem because the US had a largely pro-China policy and wasn't interfering. This didn't start spontaneously without material conditions that drive it.

Which is again much like my understanding of why the US beat its drums when the USSR interfered with Cuba. I don't condemn the US for drum beating over that event (despite my obvious distaste for the US and support for Cuba), its extremely obvious what caused it and it's extremely obvious what is causing this.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is again much like my understanding of why the US beat its drums when the USSR interfered with Cuba. I don’t condemn the US for drum beating over that event (despite my obvious distaste for the US and support for Cuba), its extremely obvious what caused it and it’s extremely obvious what is causing this.

So obviously a full US invasion of Cuba would not only have been understandable, but also justified? Just like all the assassination attempts on Castro were understandable and justified?

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who said I want an invasion to happen? Drum beating and invasion are very different things. I would like the US to fuck off and mind its own business as it is causing all of this. The result of which achieves avoiding both of the above.

You clearly don't support that though? Which makes me question whether you're actually committed to avoiding war or whether your real interest here is in advancing US interests.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who said I want an invasion to happen?

OK, you "won't be happy about it" but will "understand why it happened". Do you feel the same way about a US invasion of Cuba, and the assassination attempts on Castro? You just wanted the Soviet Union to fuck off and mind its own business?

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes?

With that said there was some more context there. The USSR sought to deploy missiles in Cuba because the US was deploying them in Turkey. Missiles were removed from Turkey and everything chilled out.

You can't end these things without addressing all of the causes. Do you or do you not think the US should stop interfering? If you don't, then you aren't really trying to stop this you're just trying to advance US interests. Trying to stand on the moral high ground while supporting the cause.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes?

That's good. I didn't think you would be able to denounce the imperialism of the Soviet Union.

Do you or do you not think the US should stop interfering?

I don't want the Taiwanese to be subjugated by the Chinese, and I know that they don't want to either, so I support any actions that allow Taiwan to remain independent.

I don't want a Chinese invasion, but I also wouldn't want a US invasion of Cuba or the assassination of Fidel Castro.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh fuck off lmao. USSR putting missiles in Cuba wasn't imperialism what fucking planet are you on? Do you know what imperialism bloody is mate? Read.

Didn't read further. This is pointless. I'm going to assume you don't want the US to stop.

[–] xzite@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Didn’t read further. This is pointless. I’m going to assume you don’t want the US to stop.

I want the US to stop invading other countries just like I want Russia and China to stop invading other countries.

Funny how US imperialism is always bad while Soviet/Chinese imperialism is just "missing context", provoked, justified, or just papered over with lies like "they were really gentle in their occupation".

Can you name even one instance of Soviet or Chinese imperialism that was, in your opinion, as bad as something the US has done? Not forced upon them by history or made bad by propaganda, just straight up them being bad imperialists.

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