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The dramatic development came shortly before jury selection was expected to begin in what would have been Biden’s second trial this year.

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seems, from the outside, making and open plea, without an agreement, our boy Hunter is taking one for the team, in drawing a line under accepting responsibility for his criminal actions, while Orange Hitler does everything in his power to avoid fault in any of his multitude of crimes.

Also, I'd love to see Joe say, fuck it, and pull a West Wing Bartlett, and pardon him in the last minute of his last day in office. I would pay very good money for this.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or allow the conviction and just commute the sentence.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

hahahahahaha YES, the white house is making a VERY big deal when they keep saying Joe won't PARDON Hunter, but haven't said anything about commutation, i love it

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what I have read, he was looking to avoid a trial. The last trial had some rather embarrassing details come out about his life while on drugs, and this trial might have included his kids as well.

Earlier today, it was reported that he was trying to plead to some weird condition where he still denied the charges, but admitted there was enough evidence to convict so they should just skip the trial and go straight to the sentencing. I guess the judge wasn't having any of that.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that what they called it, I was too lazy to look it up

I suppose that's why they mentioned the Alford plea by name in the article itself...

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Also, I’d love to see Joe say, fuck it, and pull a West Wing Bartlett, and pardon him in the last minute of his last day in office. I would pay very good money for this.

Exactly something trump supporters would say...

If Biden feels the laws are unfair now that his son is effected, maybe he should have taken drug decriminalization seriously

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump pardoning every scumbag in existence when he was president, has left a very bad taste in my mouth, especially Joe Aprio (sp?) immediately springs to mind, among a rouges gallery of criminal clowns, so yeah I'd like to see a one two punch from the Bidens on Joe's way out the door, Hunter pleads guilty with no deal, gets sentenced to whatever it is these fucking Trump installed judges hand him, it becomes a flashpoint for the election, again drawing the line under the difference in accepting responsibility, and Trump, then Trump loses the election, and Joe pardons Hunter. I would turn my pockets inside out to rat fuck Trump exactly like this.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

So because trump pardoned obviously guilty people...

You think Biden should do it to?

That type of thinking is very dangerous.

Like, it's not just fucking over trump, it's a fuck you to everyone who isn't above the law.

Remember Biden saying that, like very recently?

No one is above the law

And then he puts his son above the law and you fucking clap for your sports team.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Biden can do it, but present it differently. He could say that "Yes, this is an abuse of power, but I have every right to do this under the Constitution, and nobody can do anything about it. If you don't like it, pass an amendment to limit presidential powers. No one should be above the law."

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

He could say that “Yes, this is an abuse of power, but I have every right to do this under the Constitution, and nobody can do anything about it. If you don’t like it, pass an amendment to limit presidential powers. No one should be above the law.”

Yet Biden made campaign promises and then "looked into" if they could be done till well after we lost the seats to do anything.

He wouldn't act to help tens of millions of Americans, but his crack addict son playing with firearms is a good enough reason?

I just don't see any actual logic in what you're saying.

If he wanted to prove that point, there was a shit ton of opportunities over the last four years that would have gone a long way in making sure trump won't win this election

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I could go either way on the pardon. I think it's all in execution though. If he does pardon his son then he needs to go as Dark Brandon as possible and boast about his supreme authority and say, "This is what you wanted right? An imperial presidency? I hope your next ruler is as benevolent as I've been."

Considering that the article said Pres Biden wouldn't do it,

He has said previously he would not use his presidential power to pardon his son or commute his sentence, and White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters Thursday that was still his position. "It's still no," she said.

I'd be quite unhappy if this came to pass,

Also, I'd love to see Joe say, fuck it, and pull a West Wing Bartlett, and pardon him in the last minute of his last day in office. I would pay very good money for this.

I wonder what kind of sentence he will get. It's relevant as the lighter it is, the less apparent need for a pardon.