this post was submitted on 03 Sep 2024
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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] thurstylark@lemm.ee 308 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] moody@lemmings.world 107 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He's also ignoring the fact that if your job's responsibilities are mission-critical, chances are you have a contract which stipulates situations in which you can be contacted after hours. It's about Joe Schmoe IT guy being called in at 7pm while he's having dinner with his family and being told to come to work because Greg the assistant to the Sales VP forgot his password again. Greg can fuck right off until tomorrow morning.

The server going down at 2am is mission-critical and the guy in charge of it will definitely be answering that call to fix it.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, but he’s placing a subtle idea on people that wage theft isn’t a thing, overtime shouldn’t be a thing, and we shouldn’t have regulation for that. There’s a reason SREs get paid so much money, and it’s because it’s in their contract that they have to be the ones to rotate shifts and be up at 2am during an upgrade or otherwise, and he’s just mad he can’t pay everyone less and make more money

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Just average capitalist things. Nothing to see here.

[–] neomachino@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

At my job we're expected to at least try to be available if needed after hours which in my 3 years here has happened once and it took about 30 minute and I waited until my son went to bed for the night.

In return we get to leave for doctors appointments, picking up kids, errands etc without having to use PTO or make up the time. It's a pretty sweet deal for the developers and no one abuses it to much.

At my old job they tried to get us to work after hours pretty frequently for a fraction of what our hourly rate was, we were salaried but when you broke it down you'd be getting like $20 an hour instead of $50. Ridiculous and almost no one did it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 98 points 2 months ago

The only correct answer. Pay for that availability if needed around the clock.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

You beat me to it 😂

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

but that's why we made you salary with low wages!