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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

White Supremacy, Anti-immigrant, Anti-Trade, Anti-NATO, Anti-human-rights for LGBT, etc.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anti-Trade

What does this mean?

Anti-NATO

It's good to be Anti-NATO, NATO has Nazi origins and serves as a way to maintain Western Hegemony, securing profits via Imperialism and defending said Imperialism through coalition.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lmao

Mutual defense and deterrent to invasion by hostile world powers both in and outside of NATO is a bad thing? Sure, okay pal.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

.

Also, don’t send us reports just because you don’t agree with someone. We’re not here to censor people for you.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! So you want to talk about how the mutual self defence pact is somehow oppressing you or will you just keep dodging forever?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Reason: User threatens me not to report his alt accounts for misinformation again

What alt accounts? What are you even talking about? That’s two bullshit reports in one day, wasting our time.

Reason: Claimes NATO forces other nations into subservience.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's an alliance between Imperialist countries, and the alliance itself has Nazi origins and has had Nazi leaders. Yes, it's a bad thing, because Imperialism is a bad thing.

It's a gang of countries that hyper-exploit the Global South in mutual defense against said Global South.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

it's lemmyworld... they'll never learn that they aren't on reddit anymore.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's literally only function is a deterrent to war, including by members against others as they will not gain NATO support unless they are attacked.

It's expansionist against the wishes of outside countries, and NATO exerts military pressure on the Global South.

Its members might exploit, but thats a meaningless statement about NATO itself because without NATO there would literally be more war.

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO's only function is to preserve Western Hegemony and dominate the Global South militarily, so that member-States can continue exploiting ruthlessly unopposed. This results in proxy wars, such as the Israeli genocide of Palestinians.

It’s expansionist against the wishes of outside countries

this isn't super accurate, joining nato has some pretty strict requirements, and besides yeeting NATO would be like the west completely nuking china and russia because "they did a human rights violation" it's just a dogwhistle lmao.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join.

The only objecting countries whose wishes you're referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its not expansionist because you have to request to join

Bzzzzt wrong. NATO is expansionist because it pressures non-member states and routinely starts proxy wars.

The only countries whose wishes you're referring to are nations who want to invade potential NATO members.

Bzzzzzt wrong. Western Hegemony damages the Global South and NATO keeps member-states unaccountable.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're accusing America of causing Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent war on Ukraine?

You think Russia is working for NATO?

Pressuring people into a mutual defence pact lol such an evil thing lol

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve got bad news for you: a lot of us are anti-NATO.

Also, what the hell is anti-trade? Do you want every Westphalian state to build a wall around itself?

Edit to add: Oh I see, you created this new account because @FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today got permabanned from lemmy.ml 😂 Let’s see how long this one lasts…

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

A lot of X Users support ending all trade relations with China via heavy tarriffs.

[–] graphene@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Ah yes, free trade, the thing that improved the economies of ex-communist countries after the USSRs collapse and is on the path to fixing almost every African nations poverty.

Ah yes, NATO, the "we will only call for (and maybe possibly do something to enforce) human rights if it's convenient for us" alliance. And I'm sure all it's member nations have squeaky clean track records when it comes to international politics.

We must ban anyone against these things! That's dangerous extremist ideology

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

anti-NATO

A “harmful ideology”? Is someone paying you to spout this propaganda?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NATO's only function is mutual defense, NATO support ends when a member attacks.

Since the only thing NATO does is prevent War, the only anti-NATO stance is a pro-war stance.

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The invasion of Libya was a NATO-led effort.

Stop lying.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you referring to the coalition of some NATO members and some non-NATO members (19 nations total) enforcing a United Nations Security Council decision to make an immediate ceasefire and end the civil war in Libya?

The one with zero troops on the ground?

Being in NATO had no impact on the events, NATO member support was not mandatory as per the terms of NATO. The only reason they even call it a NATO operarion was because Itally would only vote in favor of the operation if NATO members were in charge instead of France.

[–] IAmNotACat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The reason for NATO’s involvement is quite irrelevant because they were still happy to step in and do the work. The fact is that it was ultimately NATO-led and their efforts did not lead to peace in the region.

To call NATO’s involvement in Libya ‘anti-war’ is sheer lunacy.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who do you think are supporting those?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Elon Musk, owner of Xitter

The fuck is that question?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In context of lemmy... Really quick to anger

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well I certainly could make comparisons but thats a little irrelevnt. The core of my statement is that Lemmy doesn't operate the way Twitter does.

For me "the fuck is that question" is just a colloquial expression of confusion, not anger.