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what's up with the ToS changes regarding the vegan community? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 months ago by Varyk@sh.itjust.works to c/outoftheloop@lemmy.world

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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You found a study where they asked cat owners to self report all the data. As demonstrated in this thread and others, vegans are divorced from reality when it comes to what cats actually need to eat, so I’d say that’s not the most reliable source.

Additionally:

“This research and its publication open access was funded by food awareness organisation ProVeg International (https://proveg.com). AK received this award ID: Oct2019-0000000286”

Riiiiiiiight….

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then look for a recent study yourself. I certainly won't waste my time, since I hardly believe you would chance your mind even with the most robust data available. You've made up your mind.

There's no reason why supplementation shouldn't be possible. After all we're already doing that. Obviously we can test for it (since so many people in this comment claimed that vegan brands were tested and found to be insufficient), so nothing stops us from putting taurine into the cat food to the point where it reaches the required amounts. It's that simple. If you need to stay offended than for all means keep going. Just know that you behave just like the vegans you're so annoyed about, and it's showing.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There's no reason why supplementation shouldn't be possible. After all we're already doing that

Zooming in on this statement right here, we’re already doing that, and it doesn’t work.

Obviously we can test for it (since so many people in this comment claimed that vegan brands were tested and found to be insufficient), so nothing stops us from putting taurine into the cat food to the point where it reaches the required amounts

Except for the parts where it doesn’t work

It's that simple

It really really isn’t.

If you need to stay offended than for all means keep going.

I'm not offended by anything, I think the whole discussion is comically stupid. The research done into the subject is lacking, because it's a bad idea and everyone involved knows that. I guess there are worse things for an internet forum to be arguing about.

Just know that you behave just like the vegans you’re so annoyed about, and it’s showing.

I feed my cats the food they need to survive, fortunately.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

we’re already doing that, and it doesn’t work.

We absolutely do, taurine is in basically every commercially available cat food out there. Chances are you are already feeding your cat synthetic taurine.

I feed my cats the food they need to survive, fortunately.

So do I, I'm just really annoyed at the intellectually dishonesty at play here. The position you're arguing in favor of is almost impossible to verify. Can you prove that is is impossible to create a nutritionally complete vegan cat food? No, obviously you can't. Even if every single brand currently available would be proven to be insufficient (which I seriously doubt) it'd still be a wild claim that it couldn't be done. Does that stop you from harshly judging everyone with a different opinion? For some reason, no.

Feel free to correct me if you do have a reliable source that explains why it's impossible to supplement vegan cat food while being perfectly fine for conventional ones.