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[–] TurnpikeRangers@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm in Arizona and was (still am, because absolutely fuck Kari Lake) planning on voting for Ruben. Hell, I was as excited to vote for Ruben as I am to vote for Kamala.

This is extremely disappointing. They call it a shift to appeal to moderates and independents, but that just makes me question how fucked our politics are if someone like Ruben Gallego isn't already considered a moderate. Kamala is a moderate, Walz is a moderate, our entire Democratic party is moderate.

I'm so tired of bowing to right-wing fuckwits. I'm so tired of ceding ground at every damn opportunity. Human rights are not radical. Police reform is not radical. Workers' rights are not radical. Do fucking better, Devil Dog.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah I agree, it's encouraging for the short term, and I must emphasize that it is absolutely imperative that we defeat the GOP in this election over anything else.

However it's concerning to see the Dems tracking to the right inch by inch. We need to make sure we're making allies on the left while we do elect Kamala, so that we have a stronger leftist coalition for the coming years.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is unfortunately, by design.

It's a bad design, but it is working as intended by the people who fought against establishing a true democracy in the US originally.

The electoral system and gerrymandering make it so a two party solution is the only real system that works; and one of those parties will always be moving away from the other, while the other has to move closer to the middle every time to "recapture" the voters who also shifted further from center.

It's a bad system, and it needs an overhaul/update desperately. Other countries that have established democratic systems of government since the US was established (and is technically, on record, the "oldest" democracy. If you squint.) have superior constitutions and systems of government that ensure free and fair electoral practices where candidates don't have to appeal to moderates because even edge case parties are still represented in their house of representatives.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago

Maybe, but I also feel like a lot of leftist organizations haven't tried making significant moves in getting people out to vote to a point where they can be a credible electoral threat.

The electrical system in the US isn't perfect, but I feel like a lot of organizations don't even want to play the political game. They want to protest, but protesting only goes so far.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago

It is more effective if you tell them that you think they are fuckwits after telling us.

Direct communication is easy in the 21st century.