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Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.

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[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its not in group out group fighting its indovidualism. Individuals thinking they know the way and need to attack others for not thinking that way, instead of being systematic about pushing everybody forward.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

defending treatbrained streamers as your vanguard of systematic "pushing everybody forward" is actually an extremely capitalist-realist analysis. the way forwards is not twitch streamers, stop trying to make capitalist entertainment products into your friends and also the revolution.

[–] Walk_On@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

Even Hasan would agree with this analysis lol.

That being said, he did say in a recent stream that “you aren’t going to vote the revolution in” so I’d say he’s more then a “treatbrained streamer”.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We live in capitalism. Whatever method we use, capitalism will be involved. If someone makes money on Twitch while helpfully radicalizing more people in the right direction, I see that as a good thing. It's definitely worked in the opposite direction to make reactionaries, and there's no reason to give up those methods.

It's like how electoralism won't save us but by running and being crushed Bernie helped radicalized a lot of people. He definitely did more good doing that and introducing socialist ideas, making more future anarchists and socialists than basically every socialist I know of, than every every podcaster or reading circle I've seen since.

[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If someone makes money on Twitch while helpfully radicalizing more people in the right direction, I see that as a good thing.

I mean, the 2024 election year is very dead. You had at least Bernie Sanders sheep dogging people into the Democratic Party in 2016 and 2020. Now, there's not even a need for a sheep dog. You're a Trump supporter if you bring up anything. Like, I don't really think a lot of people are radicalizing as stated. Something isn't working as believed.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not great, especially materially, but narrative-wise things look better than when I was a kid in the 90's: the USSR had fallen, and everyone agreed communism had failed. You couldn't even say the word "socialist" let alone "communist" when I was younger, let alone anyone admit they were one. I think there's just been a liberal backlash to these changes as they try to reconstitute control and power of the narrative, but there's been progress.

The main problem as I see it is just we're not organizing fast enough for the problems capitalism are causing, like climate change, and also foreign policy is still dog shit among most progressives. Also, I worry that this revolutionary atmosphere happened in the 60's too and was dismantled by the police state, so I'm hoping we learned some lessons from that time somehow.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The main problem as I see it is just we're not organizing fast enough for the problems capitalism are causing

Wonder if that has anything to do with kids sitting inside watching a guy be "radical" on their behalf and feeling like they've done something?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh you mean like BE? Who I am fairly certain hasnver done any on the ground praxis in his life.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

nobody said he had, you're tilting at windmills here

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Hasan is a pipeline!

A pipeline to where?

Voting Democrat while holding one's nose instead of doing it happily

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Im not talking about streamers i mean on the left in general. Before there was twitter there were 400 groups writing position papers on each others position papers and getting nothing done

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

before twitter there was a world communist movement and revolution in over 50 countries

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea good thing the first world had all those successful communist revolutions that definitely werent impacted by individualism to the highest degree. I dont give a fuck about any of these internet people so i dont know why ur so aggressive.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm aggressive because it's frustrating having to deal with 500 eternal waves of radlib children who repeat the same dumb lib shit over and over to defend what are essentially celebrities.

[–] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mayb you should just tell people to logoff and then logoff

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

no, i will beat each wave of radlib into submission

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

With what? Your posts? Lmao. No wonder you love these internet weirdos so much.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're the one defending the treat brain streamer lol

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

again, stop lying. You are a LIAR. Stop LYING. Bad faith LIAR

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is very very clear you are defending the aussie expat here.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

nope, never have and never will. you will continue to LIE about it though