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[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I really wish the vast majority of "hero shooters" were just co-op games. Sweaty PvP is so done for me. That's part of the reason I like Warframe and Wayfinder and other "hero" style games. I like saving the day with the homies. These Concord characters all look fine to me, I think they'd make for fun co-op heroes

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I enjoy co-op a lot more than sweat pvp.

I still play some pvp games, but mostly because a lack of co-op I haven't already burned out of.

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly dude, "hero" games I think get a bad rap cause they are all just Overwatch-clones or Overwatch adjacent (which is reductive but you know what I mean). I think the "hero" genre could do really do well to step out of "pushing the cart" or "holding the control point". Like with most genres there is a lot of room to explore if you took even a step and a half outside the existing boundaries.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If some of them tried to have an actual developed and ongoing story of sorts instead of a bullshit promise of one (like Overwatch started off with) that'd help too.

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's the thing that gets me mad, is that while they tell you they have a story, there is no meaningful way for you interact with that narrative. Or even be told that narrative in a way that makes sense because you're always trying to secure objective or whatever. Maybe a little enviorment storytelling here or some special voice lines there, but in the game itself there is usually no real way to interact with the game world's story in so many hero shooter games. Yeah there is "lore" but there usaully little story.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Like many Blizzard products, it's a wave of hype and pretension but the actual delivery is shallow but bolstered by a lot of prior fan expectations of EPIC BLIZZARD STORYTELLING(tm) and the like.

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's always a bummer to me, I feel like so much of Blizzard games (and a lot of "AAA™®© games) have utterly squandered creative potential. MEGACORP production and creative products are truly a nightmare mixture.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One of the people that put Blizzard on the map to begin with, the one that was a primary developer for Diablo and Diablo 2, left the company to make Torchlight elsewhere.

The corpos left at Blizzard tweeted "FUCK THAT LOSER" in response to the developer's parting criticisms of the old company.

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One of the people that put Blizzard on the map to begin with, the one that was a primary developer for Diablo and Diablo 2, left the company to make Torchlight elsewhere

Alas, Torchlight. A wonderful game, one of my favorite games to just boot up click on monsters. It's a good-ass game (at least the first two are), and it deserves a better fate than it got, as most good games do.

The corpos left at Blizzard tweeted "FUCK THAT LOSER" in response to the developer's parting criticisms of the old company.

Giving anyone who makes more that $50K a year a tweet account was a mistake.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I could be wrong, but from what I gather, almost no one at Blizzard then was any of the original Diablo team to begin with, and if they were, they drank deeply from the Cup of Management, sort of like todd

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How's Wayfinder so far? Heard it kinda had a rocky start but I'm interested in the art style and gameplay loop

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dig it. It's a cartoon-y Saturday morning show about good guys fighting bad guys. I'm a sucker for that thing. Love the artstyle, the mechanics are fun and the looter-shooter-y isn't groundbreaking but it nails the fundamentals. New gear feels exciting which is all I ask for.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll have to give it a try then!

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I think it’s worth the price, and it’s an “offline” game. You don’t need to connect to the internet or anything like that. It’s all there right out of the box. It’s still “early access” but most of my ~30 hours have been enjoyable and bug free