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Uyghurs and Ukraine are great filters for figuring out who's actually a fascist (lemmy.world)
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[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
  2. A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
  3. Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don't vote for her.
  4. Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.

I'd like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was a simple question. Answer first please, then I’ll address a counter argument. Please don’t try to deflect.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Whatever. Fine. Sure. Why does it matter?

Both mainstream candidates have promised to continue funneling arms to Israel. If people who voted for Hitler were complicit in fascism, and that analogy extends to the current election (and I'm not at all convinced it does), then anyone who votes for either major political party is complicit in fascism. Do you believe this? If so, then just say you object to point 1 and let's discuss third-party voting.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I do believe that voting for either party is complicit in the genocide, myself included. I can recognize this and still vote for Harris to prevent damage to marginalized communities. But I don’t denigrate those that choose to not vote or vote third party because of the genocide. I get it.