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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 44 points 3 months ago (51 children)

One more thing Americans are paying more for and getting worse results

[–] meepster23@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (50 children)

Are we getting worse results though? How are you determining that? Russia has always gone for the volume strategy in basically everything. It's basically the zap brannigan special of throwing meat into the grinder until it clogs using cheap, mass produced crap.

The US has gone for high tech and precision. Costs much more, much lower production, but generally better results.

Also Russia is in a "hot" war with Ukraine and of course will be well into mass producing shells to use etc. Seeing as the US is barely passing measures to send aid to Ukraine, there isn't going to be an appetite to ramp up that production.

Look to world war 2 for an example of how the US can go from no real military might to okay you touched our fucking boats, now we end you.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 52 points 3 months ago (24 children)

but generally better results

Not only has the US not won a war since the 1950s, literally every nation that relies on high tech low production has fucking failed at warfare

It's war. Things will break and get destroyed. There are no invincible Wunderwaffen. It is always better to have five tanks that are 80% effective but easily replaced and repaired over one single tank that's 100% effective but requires millions to build one single tank

It's a lesson taught over and over again

basically the zap brannigan special of throwing meat into the grinder

This is literally Nazi WW2 propaganda that still gets repeated as fact. I'm sure you still believe that the Soviets only armed half their troops at Stalingrad

[–] meepster23@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago (7 children)

So why hasn't Russia taken over Ukraine?

And why are you bringing Stalingrad into this? You are literally saying it's a good thing that Russia is producing more arms etc and then saying Russia doesn't tend to operate by trying to use overwhelming numbers? Huh?

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So why hasn't Russia taken over Ukraine?

That isn't their military goal, I know that planning military is beyond most American minds, but sometimes war aims aren't "take everything"

And why are you bringing Stalingrad into this?

Because you're the one who began by spouting the "human waves" Nazi myth that began in Stalingrad

I know that it's really difficult for you Lemmitors to have a thought going, but I've heard that if you rub two braincells together you'd be surprised at the results. Don't strain yourself though

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So why hasn't Russia taken over Ukraine?

Because that isn't their goal despite what the NATO disinformation mills would have you think.

You are literally saying it's a good thing that Russia is producing more arms etc and then saying Russia doesn't tend to operate by trying to use overwhelming numbers? Huh?

Bombs aren't people. You can pummel an enemy with a metric shitfuckton of shells without sending in human waves.

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Russia’a goal is destroying Ukraines military which they’re doing extremely effectively. They’re not racing to grab land lol

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Hexbear mods are discriminating against me by banning all the dunkables while I am sleeping.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

oppa gangnam style

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Where does this overwhelming numbers thing come from?

Remember when the war started and all the newsmedia was making a big deal out of Russia invading with 150,000 soldiers? Meanwhile, Ukraine had triple that.

You ever think your world view might be a little... curated?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Because taking total control over Ukraine was never part of their war objectives?

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