remind me, where has Ukraine been getting its weapons? why haven't they swept the nasty russians out of Donbass and Crimea with oh so superior NATO equipment?

[–] meepster23@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Mostly old Soviet stock piles and some western weapons. You don't actually believe that the entire Ukrainian army is being supplied by NATO do you?

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you aren't getting off that easy. you said western equipment offers a distinct advantage by being higher quality than russian. Ukraine has NATO arms, they still count if Ukraine is using kalahnikovs, so direct me to the successes of the Ukrainian military that can be attributed to the sublime quality of yankee equipment

[–] meepster23@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean the fact that they are still standing is a pretty solid endorsement. By your logic Kyiv should have fallen in the first week like Russia was claiming it would.

Specific example off the top of my head is the cruise missile strikes against the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet using Storm Shadows I believe iirc

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"by my logic" i didn't say ukraine would have crumbled without NATO arms. i'm questioning how superior and helpful NATO arms are, remember?

but if the only thing it's helped with has been striking Russia's fleet in a war being fought on land in the east, lmao that seems very consequential

[–] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

biaoqing-copium