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Secure a place in history. Create the source material for hundreds of journalists, bloggers and shitposters writing about the downfall of reddit and the rise of the threadiverse. (also missing!)

At some point, there will be some sort of drama involving kbin. It could be constructive drama or not; who knows.

When it happens, whatever it is, lots of people will direct themselves to wikipedia to learn about what this website is. We all know wikipedia can be very influential. Even in the absence of drama.

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[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There wasn't a lot of good source material to use a couple months ago. I'm unsure if that has changed, but it might've. It's a prerequisite for writing a good wikipedia article, at any rate, as opposed to a shitty one.

You're not allowed to write your own telling of the story on there, you have to copy other people's and cite them. So a lot of other people need to have written on it, from a position of being a reliable source, before a quality wikipedia article can be written.

Though a small, mediocre article can be better than no article, if you're giving someone a good framework to improve on later, as more sources develop.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And also bear in mind that if someone writes a crappy enough kbin article now and it gets deleted, that's going to make it harder to get a kbin article started again in the future. I know that's not how it's supposed to work in principle but unfortunately it's how it works in practice.

[–] 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Pleroma still doesn't have a wikipedia article because of this, despite being one of the oldest AP-enabled fediverse services. It's been deleted twice because some moderator didn't like the quality or number of sources.

[–] density@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@FaceDeer oh that's interesting. do you know why?

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wikipedia doesn’t like articles that are basically ads. Articles should be written from an unbiased standpoint using independent sources. If an article has been removed because it’s basically self promotion, then mods will be more careful about reopening it again.

[–] rodhlann@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might it be easier to start by adding mentions of Kbin on another Wikipedia article? I've read a bunch of news articles about Kbin and most of them aren't thorough enough to really base anything off of, or they're just wrong. Most people writing articles about Kbin don't seem to have used it enough to really give a full picture of its capabilities or history

[–] density@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

@rodhlann I noticed the lack of kbin page when I was reading ActivityPub#Notable_implementations. All but kbin have links to separate pages and expect for WriteFreely, those pages all exist. Although as mentioned elsewhere the Pleroma page doesn't exist, that links to Fediverse#Fediverse_software_packages where kbin is also mentioned.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

There's been a lot of articles about the recent Reddit drama or whatever you want to call it. I'm sure some of them have mentioned Lemmy and Kbin!