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Uyghur "Genocide" is so hardwired to people's brains, how do any of y'all try convince others that they're believing propaganda? (hexbear.net)

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It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

It depends on the person. Some people don't really pay attention to the news, were relatively young when some of this first came out, and some people are just sorta ambivalence about all the politics stuff, even if they see it. With them, I know I might have hope in explaining details.

If it's someone that's committed, but is still a bit of a civility lib, I just quickly mention the UN report that said there wasn't genocide, mention that there may still be issues, and then talk about how they shouldn't use that word too carelessly, because it lessens the impact of more "real" genocides. That should all happen in the span of less then a minute, and then I'll quickly change the subject or leave the conversation. Hopefully, they care enough about word choice that they stop using the word "genocide" (though often they'll call it something else that's also sort of wrong, but hopefully less wrong). Getting people to change the words they use is a very small step, but hopefully more steps in the right direction can follow.

And then there are some people where it's easier to just dodge the China topic. China hasn't been the main focus of the media for a while, so saying good things about China usually gets through, a lot of the anti-China libs of the 2010's are much more focused on the whole Ukraine and Russia ordeal. Saying good things about China and Xinjiang will probably get a lot less of a reaction than having a controversial opinion about Ukraine. I've never seen random people flying Uyghur supporting flags, but I've seen many, many Ukraine flags.