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F-Droid, no "side loading" needed
Don't you need to side load F-Droid? That is what I did.
No, you just download it
Isn't that what side loading is?
My definition of side loading is installing anything outside of an app management system. For example going to a website and downloading the APK and installing it.
Windows users call that "installing"... 😈
The only way to get it outside of sideloading is flashing a custom ROM like LineageOS that includes it. It's not exactly available in the play store.
What in the world are you all calling "side loading" you just download the APK and install it. No cables, no ADB, no side loading
Edit, I guess kids these days are calling downloading APKs side loading lol
ITT: Witnessing somebody learning what sideloading is and isn't as technical as they think it is.
To be fair on most Android devices sideloading isn't a very meaningful term, but on locked down devices like iOS it is.
It isn't? I've been using the term since I picked up my first Android phone in 2010 and there were side-loaded apps everywhere. Hell, you used to have to side-load the Amazon Store app. And that was all just "download this apk and install it" Workflows.
2010 was already tainted by the iPhone walled garden.
Installing an APK directly is sideloading. It's literally on the "Get F-Droid" page:
Sideload, to me, means pushing it onto the phone and installing it from a second, local device. Loaded from the side. Easy enough to do if you have the tools.
Downloading an APK through a browser and installing it from a file browser, all from the single device itself, wouldn't count as sideloading given my personal definition of the term.
You're mixing the definitions of sideloading media and sideloading apps. Sideloading media follows your definition, e.g. transfer via another local device. Sideloading apps refers to the installing of apps outside of the (pre-)installed app store, e.g. by installing an APK directly.
That's fine, your definition just doesn't seem to be the norm. I think as things have changed over time, and it's possible and easy to do it all on the device, that the definition has shifted. To me it means installing applications from outside of official channels.
That is what they are saying.
They are just pointing out the exception. The only way you wouldn't need to sideload F-Droid is if it happened to be pre-installed on the OS itself.
I guess while I was sleeping side loading meaning went from having to manually move an APK from another device to an android via adb to just anything you downloaded?
That's silly, but okay
Load from the Side. Sideload. It's always meant that to me.
I guess I'm old enough that using app stores seems like the weird way to get an app. I mean, do you think of it as side loading when you download an app on PC not from the MS Store?
No, I'm agreeing with you.
Lol I'm old and lost, covid has addled my brain
Wait, since when does LineageOS include F-Droid? I remember having to download it myself using the built-in browser the last time I tried it.
I installed it under Waydroid recently and it included it by default. Maybe it's a newer thing? Or dependent on which image you choose?
I think bundling it might be unique to the Waydroid FOSS image. I recently set up Waydroid with GAPPS rather than with FOSS (because AuroraStore still won't run on Waydroid, grrrrrrr) and it didn't come with it.
(Side note, if you figure out how to get Aurora to show a list of apps in Waydroid x64 without instantly crashing, I will love you)
Alright, so apparently I'm about to get loved? Aurora just worked for me, but I installed Waydroid under Bazzite using one of the included just-scripts. So I went and figured out how it does it. To "configure", which is the second step in setting up (on Bazzite) it calls this set of scripts: https://github.com/casualsnek/waydroid_script
The microg installation handles Aurora. In case you want it here's the just script, tho it's obviously tailored to bazzite: https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/d5097a5e971c46912188a9004b2289cff3798221/system_files/desktop/shared/usr/share/ublue-os/just/82-bazzite-waydroid.just
What you showed in that video is AuroraDroid which is an alternative frontend for F-Droid and distinct from Aurora Store (which is a frontend for the Play Store). Do you have the actual Aurora Store also?
Welp, egg on my face because it in fact, did crash.
Edit: Okay so I installed a much older version from the f-droid archive, 3.1.7.17 (random choice) and got it to show me the list of apps. Clearly some sort of regression happened. If I had the time, I'd figure out the exact version.
Edit 2: Which is the only way I can install play store apps. Play Store through microg crashes when I try to look at an app.
I searched "waydroid aurora store crashing" on DuckDuckGo a while back and found a thread that said it was a regression in Aurora Store v4.3 and that v4.2 works. I'm not sure how to download old versions of apps from F-Droid though.
It's easy in Aurora Droid at least, there's an "Other Versions" tab on the app page.