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  1. Its literally just because Hillary Clinton sucks so hard and people didnt want to hear that shit from her
  2. Deplorables is too much of a vocabulary word, weird is a word everyone knows. So deplorable just comes off more elitist, from a woman who is already seen that way. To quote a friend I asked "I think deplorable has a negative connotation that speaks to core personhood, in a way that comes off as both mean spirited and elitist"
  3. The GOP hadnt gotten unhinged enough yet, so America wasnt ready for a campaign that is dismissive of them and still expected bipartisan respect and shit, but are now because the "weird" shit is so out there all the time
  4. "Weird" is simply a more effective word to describe the situation at hand
  5. Deplorables would have worked fine with the young people who can vote now but couldnt in 2008.
  6. Kamala and especially Walz are better representations of "not weird" than Hillary was a representation of "not deplorable".
  7. "Weird" hits them harder, insults them worse, and thus makes them spiral more in a way deplorable didnt
  8. Deplorable would have worked fine if it wasnt just a one off comment but a sustained campaign message (this one im thinking probably not)
  9. The Vance effect, he's just that weird.
  10. People who are tired of Democrats being respectful like weird a lot
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[–] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Clinton was speaking about the supporters and not the leaders. So I’d agree with you that she came off as a snobby out of touch elite who didn’t like the unwashed masses.

There’s also the thing about the conservatives trying to wear the mantle of “silent majority” that calling conservative leadership and talking heads weird seems to be sticking.

It might also be a good way to sidestep getting sucked into a debate bro situation. It’s up to the other person to not be weird, you don’t have to supply a logical argument why somebody else is weird.

[–] pooh@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Yeah I agree with this and I see it as punching up vs punching down. Even though Trump supporters are genuinely terrible, the appearance of punching down by Hilldog just makes them feel picked on. Calling their leaders weird on the other hand is more effective at peeling off support.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

supporters and not the leaders

snap!

she couldn't effectively deal with trump so she punched down

[–] D61@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I... actually don't give Clinton enough credit to think it was an intentional strategy to punch down.

I honestly believe it was her speaking honestly and nobody in her campaign team either pointed out how shitty it was to say or maybe they, themselves, thought the same thing to such a degree that it didn't dawn on them that it was a shitty thing to say.

hillary-apartment Like, this emote, where Clinton's walking through a "normal" person's apartment and she's looking around in wide eyed wonder/disgust like "why would somebody want to live like this?"