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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What should we be doing about the Uyghur genocide? What are you doing about it?

[–] Homescool@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What should we do about whataboutism? It seems to be a popular alternative to engagement.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Like the what aboutism associated with distracting the electorate from every other issue on the ticket to focus solely on Gaza?

Like that what aboutism?

How is it what aboutism to confront the people most concerned about Genocide with another Genocide getting zero attention? I detect hypocrisy and this whole adversarial discussion we are having now is only proof of its existence.

Edit: How about this one? How does me commenting about another Genocide; which is seemingly forgotten by most gaza advocates; in a thread strictly about supporting oppressed people; take away from the message of the thread?

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

hey maybe we should stop the fucking genocide. maybe, if you're a fucking human being with basic capacity for compassion, you could consider that SORT OF IMPORTANT, and the only other thing that could be considered more important or urgent is climate change, which there is no hope of any elected politician doing jack shit about within our (and humanity's) lifetimes.

also tho, yeah, wish we had serious action to take to protect uighurs, kurds, armenians (FUCKING AGAIN!), etc

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never seen someone so angry about something so not controversial.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

thank you for assessing my emotions and deciding that the genocide that is still ongoing and nobody has intervened in, and in some cases made BDS illegal to do, is uncontroversial.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you shouldn't be angry I'm saying most people agree with you. We are all captive to things beyond our control. Let me know if you want help reconciling that.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

if something can control you, you have SOME amount of control over it.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When the US is funding the persecution of the Uyghurs, the situations will be equivalent. Oddly enough, citizens of a country tend to be more occupied with the actions of their country than situations that they are not invoked in

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Got it, you support genocide.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You guys truly have no hobbies. What a shitfest

It’s like someone from rdrama started mining lemmy and those are godless scumbags

Edit: also If you haven’t already post it there because at least this way it can have some purpose

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's like, what did I do? I mentioned there are other people being oppressed. I cannot figure out why that's controversial in the context of this thread.

[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Who won the oppression contest anyway? What are the latest ladders?

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Apparently, gazan's are ranked holocaust. Uyghurs are close behind at detention camps. Ukraines on the board with war crimes.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about the same questions to you regarding the Palestinian genocide?

Before you answer, the US withdrawing aid would not stop the genocide. Israel has enough on hand to completely level Palestine. So what do you suggest should be done? Also keep in mind that withdrawing aid means that Israel completely stops even pretending to listen to the one country in the world that can talk to them. Also, also keep in mind that Israel has nukes.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I write to my elected representatives to request that they do something. I realize that it's of limited value, given that the representative for my House district, Mark Pocan, agrees with me and has already voted 'no' on aid, and stated that he would be thrilled to personally hand Netanyahu over to agents of the ICC; Sen. Fuck Ron Johnson makes it very clear that he does not wish to hear anything from constituents; Sen. Tammy Baldwin still supports Israel, so maybe I can influence her. I wrote to Biden and said that I could not in good conscience vote for him in the primary. Bigger picture, I think that the state of Israel needs to be abolished for the long-term good of all of its citizens.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you want your representatives to do? Again, withdrawing aid will not stop the genocide and will only make the problem worse.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

Who right now can at least talk to Israel? Who can at least try to bring them to the table? Only the US. If the US withdraws support, there is no one else.

Plus, its like everyone keeps forgetting that Israel has fucking nukes. Given how their leadership has been acting, do you think they'll refrain from using them if they run out of other options? How about when, not if, Iran invades? Something that's practically a given if they don't think the US will retaliate?