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The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.

Citing the recommendation of the Code of Conduct Working Group, Python developer Thomas Wouters revealed on behalf of the Steering Council that the unidentified developer was deemed to have repeatedly violated the Python Software Foundation (PSF) Code of Conduct.

The suspended developer is Tim Peters, who told The Register it was fine to name him but declined to comment – beyond observing that one of his objections to the governance process is the secrecy involved.

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right, it's not a company, and it relies on the unpaid labor of volunteers, who Peters was driving away. That's mentioned in the thread. Though they are not a company with employees, they are still a community that needs to attract talent. You seem to be giving a lot more leeway to interpretations of Peters' words than my comparison. Odd.

So he's dismissing the training; in doing so he's also dismissing that it's worthwhile to try and have an environment free from sexual harassment. That's not somebody I'd want as a representative of an inclusive community. The steering committee seems to agree.

From the Coc:

  • Showing empathy towards other community members. We're attentive in our communications, whether in person or online, and we're tactful when approaching differing views.
  • Being considerate. Members of the community are considerate of their peers -- other Python users.
  • Being respectful. We're respectful of others, their positions, their skills, their commitments, and their efforts.
  • Gracefully accepting constructive criticism. When we disagree, we are courteous in raising our issues.
  • Using welcoming and inclusive language. We're accepting of all who wish to take part in our activities, fostering an environment where anyone can participate and everyone can make a difference.
[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You seem to be giving a lot more leeway to interpretations of Peters’ words than my comparison. Odd.

It doesn't require any leeway. It's a totally mainstream opinion supported by actual research. It's only in woke CoC teams that comments like that are objectionable.

he’s also dismissing that it’s worthwhile to try and have an environment free from sexual harassment.

Complete misunderstanding of his comment. Read it again.

Gracefully accepting constructive criticism.

Lol the irony is overpowering.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

woke

There it is. Thanks for finally being explicit about the kind of person you are. People like you are the reason cocs have to be made in the first place. Don't bother responding, I'll be blocking you.

[–] simplymath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

wow. Someone besides either author got all the way here in the thread to downvote the guy saying open source communities shouldn't keep people around who make volunteers uncomfortable. Like, what exactly was lost here? A guys right to do free labor? Python is just about the worst language for any task you can imagine anyway, yet someone is going around spending their free time picking 3rd party fights about the community that manages it.

question for the downvoters:

Why do you care? Personally, I like having women and racial minorities in computer science. That's why I care.

But why would you defend Tim? Please note that I'm not saying you shouldn't-- it's just clear that this was never an argument in good faith.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks for finally being explicit about the kind of person you are.

As if wokeness isn't a thing 🙄