Found on reddit. I'm told the reason for their visit is to intimidate the Haitian immigrant community there.
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2024
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Kill their ideas, save the humans.
if theres anything human left of them. I know you said we shouldnt dehumanize them, but these people have done that to themselves.
That still doesn’t justify murder for what is in the photo.
Armed Nazis are valid military targets.
They should be eliminated immediately with a focus on avoiding collateral damage.
In this case (Americans on American soil), wouldn’t capture be preferred? We do that with enemy combatants all the time. If elimination is better, why?
Incarceration costs a lot and bullets are cheap.
Are those the only criteria for this being the better choice?
They're no longer humans.
Please explain how I am supposed to tell the difference between you (suggesting murder) and them (implying murder).
Or if you’re a right-wing violence-obsessed troll, fuck off with the nazis.
One is based on overt flag waving, genocide loving, pure ideologynof hatred being paraded in the streets as a direct threat to other citizens.
The other is self defense against that threat.
Seems like an obvious distinction to me.
How is killing (rather than stopping) these specific people self-defense?
You talk like a cop.
Shut their shit down. Just maybe don’t jump immediately to violence.
You’re on the wrong side here.
Okay. Kill me, too?
No, you're just being a "both sides bad" style centrist, so the proper move is to ignore your terrible opinion.
Well, I’m relieved you know how to draw a line somewhere.
Right now it seems like I’m having a discussion with a bunch of people who think murder is okay.
But maybe I’m just not communicating my point clearly enough.
Centrists like you who gave fascists like them an inch is how they murdered millions upon millions. Never again. There are all sorts of mind virus cults, but Nazis are a the most dangerous, destructive, industrially homicidal cultists that have ever lived. Compassion and empathy is lost on them because they'll take advantage of that to murder us. I say shoot them because it's quick.
Name calling doesn’t help the case for justifying murder. Nothing I’m writing is centrist; you are misunderstanding or ignoring what I wrote. Not sure why you included that in your comment.
These people in the photo should never be allowed to intimidate anyone. We must stop them. They need to abandon their bigotry and cease their desire to harm others.
Telling you that there is a way do that without murder doesn’t give them an inch.
When I say I’m not in favor of running them over doesn’t stop you from running them over.
I don’t know why so many replying to me seem so threatened by the possibility that nonviolent action could solve the nazi problem. I can still fight nazis in other ways other than muddling them. I listed ways to improve society mentioned in my other comments that would inoculate potential future nazis before they turn.
No one here has convinced me to start killing. For all the passion in this thread, I don’t get the sense any of y’all have backed up your words with action yet. I would like to hear an update on how that works out for you afterwards. Maybe that’ll be what sways me to join the killings.
For now, I haven’t given up hope that other effective options have failed. Fighting their demented ideology at the source is going to be far more effective in the long run. This isn’t about compassion for them, but dismay about your bloodlust, lack of creativity, and oversimplification of the world. I believe you can do better.
I agree with your point that nazis are dangerous. I disagree about shooting them being the best/only solution.
That’s not how it works.
Okay.
No.