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Vaush is a debate bro who values winning arguments above all else, including on topics he knows nothing about. He is a chauvinist who supports the plight of minorities as long as they lick his boots. If they do not, he deems them “subhuman.” He is a self-admitted sexual harasser who gave a dubious apology. Despite describing himself as an anarcho-syndicalist and libertarian socialist, he does not want to abolish the government and he has admitted that his political project is nearly identical with that of social democrats. He has cultivated a cult of personality that deflects all criticism as “out of context” when he himself proudly maintains those positions as “based and high IQ.” Although most of his detractors are hardly better.

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“He who is reluctant to recognize me opposes me.”

:fanon::anarchy-trans:

Part 1: Politics

Part 2: Politics (continued)

Part 3: Sex

Part 4: Gender and Sexuality

Part 5: Gender and Sexuality (continued)

Part 6: Race and Miscellaneous

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[–] hexagon_bear@hexbear.net 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Race

  • “In this video, i drop an n-bomb. Biiiig one; hard 'R'. I did this to show my interlocutors that their language doesn't impress me, that their slurs don't frighten or disarm me. You can see from their reactions that it worked - they were clearly taken aback. It was a power over which I am entirely unashamed of, but I understand how that language might have upset some of you. This is an example of what i would call an 'invocation of a slur's power for good', but that's a subjective judgement. I invite you all to discuss this in the comments, critically or otherwise!”[4.1],[4.2]
    • “Damn right, that was a tactical n-bomb and I'd do it again / also i dont care about moral offense, i care about arguments. i offend nazis all the time, i read the /pol/ threads. Gotta make an argument for me to change my mind, not just complain impotently”[4.3]
  • Said Black people trying to preserve their culture that was systematically eradicated is exactly the same as white nationalism.[4.4],[4.5]
  • “The Democratic Party of The United States of America - even those milquetoast weaklings - are also committed to this. Like even people like Pete Buttigieg were talking about the Friedreich Douglass Plan to put forward reparations to Black folk and ease the racial economic divide. What you’re talking about, what you’re trying to sell to me as Black Nationalism is so milquetoast that you could speak about it on the public debate stage in a presidential election.”[4.6]
  • Anti-Indigenous.[4.7] Said “I’ll listen to the scientists,” which excludes the subaltern, naively assumes objectivity,[4.8],[4.9] and ignores the deep effects of racism.[4.10]
  • “‘Until then white people should stop demanding PoC talk to [Vaush].’ Dude the tankie-wokescold, like, horseshoe theory collides right here. By the way, this is unironically racist, just so you guys know. Delegitimizing my opinions because of my skin color and saying that the only reason I hold those opinions is because I’m a chauvinist. This is like, actually unironically racist.”[4.11] This equates whiteness with chauvinism, which is accidentally correct.[4.12]
  • Called Hakim, who is an Iraqi physician, “this kid.”[4.13]
  • “you guys know ive called black and trans people subhuman too”[4.14]
  • “I do fetishize black people”[4.15]
  • “Don’t need The Blacks mad at me again”[4.16]

Miscellaneous

  • ‘Watching my videos and doing nothing else makes you “braver” than the people who listen to Chapo Trap House and do nothing else.’[5.1]
  • “There's nobody on earth braver than fans of mine.”[5.2]
  • “It does exhaust me constantly arguing with the entire left. [...] There aren’t really any good pockets of the left, I feel, outside of my community.”[5.3]
  • In response to an insult: ‘Not an argument, debate me bro.’[5.4]
  • “I’m really fucking needed here. [...] Everything the Chapo boys represented with their podcast really was just a sort of veneer of educated cultural commentary stretched over dumbfuck apathy bros justifying their apparent unwillingness to engage with the political reality sincerely. Yea, they’re like triggered that I’m voting Biden. Well, all the lefties that don’t want to vote Biden are triggered by me because they know I’m right and they know they don’t have any good arguments. That makes them really upset.”[5.5]
  • “Yeah, enjoy your Left, built on weakness and a collective inability to criticize one another. I’ll be over here building my left, which isn’t full of mentally ill crybabies desperately craving out safe spaces and whining about criticism. Debate it if you want, elsewise fuck off.”[5.6]
  • In response to Socialism Done Left’s bigotry: “Haven’t seen anything that looks, like, bad enough that I would stop associating with him. [...] Is the shittiest parts of SDL’s online presence representative of the totality of his content?”[5.7]
  • Vaush's sysadmin, WhiteNervosa, tricked ILiedAboutTheCake. ILiedAboutTheCake helped WhiteNervosa set up a website for free, but that website was actually for Vaush.[5.8]
  • “To everyone saying I said “I apologize BUT” / You know what? Yeah, I think internal problems with leftie cancel culture are a thousand times more damaging to the movement and to the safety, frankly, of trans people and other marginalized groups. / I’ve not seen a single good counterargument to this, only whataboutism and, funnily enough, tone policing. These tendencies within the left are the reasons why I engage in the type of rhetoric I do - to strengthen the left, provide a broader range of opinions and to rope in the countless disaffected edgelords who feel alienated by the left’s really fucking high internal standards for behavior. [...] My apology was only directed at a small subset of people, to people who didn’t take it to mean I’m a bigot but still got offended by the tweet. In hindsight, I shouldn’t have made it, because it seems to have cheapened my words on the broader problem. / Anyway, enjoy cancelling me again / EDIT: I’ll remove this edit bit if I see somebody beneath me make a good argument”[5.9]
  • Irony:
    • “They don’t read it, but they’re very fucking confident that what’s inside the text of those pages agrees with them. So they’ll say any shit and they’ll link it back to whatever out-of-context quotes they can.”[5.10]
    • “I like to operate on the principle of charitability, meaning that if you want to do a good job understanding other people, you shouldn’t be incredibly uncharitable in your interpretation of their values.”[5.11]
      • “It seems like the most ethical way to handle all this is to find the single most oppressed person on earth like a disabled trans woman somewherei n Bangladesh and ask them if they want to nuke the rest of the planet.”[5.12]
    • “There are a lot of lefties that have a factually incorrect view of the world. [...] If you try to correct them, they call you a liberal.”[5.13]
    • “It’s really, really, really easy to be duped by arguments like the ones Hakim used in that video, and if it weren’t for the fact that I’m the one being arguing against, and the position is one that I disagree with, I would fall for it to. [...] There’s no shame, we’re all human.”[5.14]
    • “Tankies like Hakim are literally a fucking cancer on online leftist discourse. They don't convert anyone. The only people they convert are fucking lefties into pseudo-fascism, okay? I don't give a fuck about any of these people, okay? They're worthless. They're a cancer. [...] Because I, with my superior ideas, got fucking five times the [subscribers] Hakim did in half the time, okay?”[5.15]
  • Comments from his fans: ‘He didn't say that. And if he did, it was out of context. And if it wasn't out of context, it was ironic. And if he specifically said that it was unironic, he already apologized. And if he didn't apologize, it was actually good. Besides, he said that a whole 3 months ago, that's long outdated. Why should I care about your opinion when you don't even have 100,000 youtube subscribers? You're reactionary for purity testing, woketard. There are valid criticisms of him, but this isn't it.’