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It is only the bourgeoisie who prevent this; they will use violence either through classic oppression of the working class or direct violence to maintain the status quo of exploitation. The workers would love to be peacefully handed the means of production.

This is one of the best way to demonstrate to liberals that they ARE oppressed even if they don’t feel it. We (the proletariat) have no incentive to be violent if a peaceful end to exploitation is possible, but every day we face the obvious fact that the bourgeoisie will never peacefully surrender their way of life even if it is for the greater good of humanity.

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[–] PermaculturalMarxist@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (1 children)

this is always a good retort when for when the non-communists say that we just want violence or that violence is ideologically enshrined into communism. To that last one, I'd also add that every political system uses violence, either overt violence or the threat of it, to mantain itself, what changes is who the violence is directed at and to what end. Under liberalism, it is overwhelmingly towards the workers and oppressed in service of mantaining hegemony of monopoly capital.

[–] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

That was the a BIG revelation for me in my political journey.

There is no such thing as a non violent political ideology, period. Every ideology justifies violence, and the extent to which you think it doesn't is the extent to which the ideology has been normalized and accepted in your mind. A huge contention of political discourse is what forms of violence are justified and who they are justified towards. I have seen people turn fucking WHITE when I begin to break down how their ideologies justify violence on a scale that they have normalized so much its never even occurred to them.

I am a communist because as much as we might love to dunk on and advocate violence towards various people: end of the day any of them could choose to renounce capitalism and relinquish their private property. You cannot "choose" to stop being Jewish, or Gay, Transsexual, or even poor as much as libs wish you could.