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[–] odelik@lemmy.today 50 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

I was hoping it was Kelly or Walz over Shapiro.

To me, as Bernie Sanders flavored "Socialist", Walz is an amazing pick.

However I had a preference for Kelly since I strongly believe that his history as an astronaut and his popularity in a state like AZ could help drive a lot of independent voters to the Democrat's platform come November.

All that said, progressives know that progressive policy is also extremely popular when messaged broadly and communicating the benefits to the invidual and country. Hopefully Kamama & Walz use their experince with their A* campaign team to drive that home. And then fucking deliver.

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think Kelly was the best political pick for sure. But Kelly is sure to win again in AZ. They need his vote in the Senate.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

And that's McCain's seat; not a safe blue one. It's the right call. Everyone is good moving into the election. Smooth, competent, unified as everything needs to be to ensure our democracy survives Trump and his MAGA cult.

[–] jadedwench@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Her stepkids call her Mamala.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not sure why, but learning this was one of the most humanizing thing I've seen about almost any politician.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Apparently Hillary Clinton really likes spicy foods. She ate raw jalapenos like potato chips on the campaign trail, according to one aid.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For some reason this just makes me sad I love spicy food too, not make her more likeable... That's almost definitely on my biases against her from the '16 primaries tho.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Who knows, maybe if you had a chance to chat with her over a nice meal of spicy food, you could find some common ground (besides the food). Or if nothing else, she has some interesting stories. Like, when she was starting out she worked as a civil rights activist in Alabama proving that "segregation academies" were discriminating against Black applicants in violation of the law. They openly assured her that they would not let Black students in. More broadly, this proved that the Nixon administration was not enforcing the law.

Health care, I'm sure she has plenty to say that is far more nuanced than the sound bites that get posted to social media. Social mobility, educational opportunity, racial justice, the justice system, foreign policy. I would love to hear her thoughts, even if I don't agree with everything.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Dude, dinner and a frank conversation with Hillary Clinton would be one of the highlights of my life. She has seen some shit.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It really says a lot that all you did was mention a progressive thing she did and this seems to have upset several people who still want to cling to their GOP implanted delusion that she is the neoliberal devil.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I'm just migrating from lemmy.ml. A couple of downvotes is a nice upgrade from the atmosphere over there.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did Sean get her on Hot Ones yet?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Alas, no. She did do an interview with Between Two Ferns, though.

[–] mimimum@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

I believe Walz is a good pick because he'll drive the more apathetic voters into the voting booths. He helps keep the momentum of hope Harris has going for her right now. Plus Kelly will hop onboard anyway.

This is a side of the old Blue buffoons I wish we had seen years ago.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

However I had a preference for Kelly

They didn't want to pull an incumbent Democratic Senator in a swing state. Too risky.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 10 points 3 months ago

It's an interesting pick for sure. I was also thinking Kelly as the obvious, safe answer to score cheap points and also maybe shore up AZ. Walz is more of an optimistic, less cynical pick that leans into the progressive side further. It's possible that's what's needed to keep the momentum going.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Kelly would have been a political disaster. His gun control stance would alienate a lot of pro-gun moderates and his Senate seat would almost certainly end up going to a Republican.

Shapiro would have been the politically safest choice because he'd all but guarantee Pennsylvania, which Harris needs to win. But his handling of college protests has been disgusting.

Walz is a great pick. Veteran, teacher, football coach, Congressman, and Governor is a heck of a resume. He was also the highest-ranked enlisted man to ever serve in Congress.

He has also been willing to defy his party. He sided against the party with the bank and GM bailouts, and was even endorsed by the NRA until they became 100% partisan.

He's like a less-privileged, Democratic John McCain.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

I really like Walz partially because he's not the obvious pick for political maneuvering. It indicates he was picked because he was the right choice, not just because it was politically expedient. Shapiro and Kelly could both be dismissed as just chosen to win a state, not because they're actually the best choice to serve as VP.