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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/38852281

Figures published by the Welsh Government show casualty reductions as follows for the period January to March 2024, in comparison with January to March 2023:

All severities at all speeds: 811 (2024); 4348 (2023);

20mph. All severities: 300 (2024); 662 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 63 (2024); 144 (2023)

Slightly injured: 237 (2024); 518 (2023)

30mph. All severities: 77 (2024); 1522 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 15 (2024); 343 (2023)

Slightly injured: 62 (2024); 1179 (2023)

40mph. All severities: 74 (2024); 397 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 20 (2024); 98 (2023)

Slightly injured: 54 (2024); 299 (2023)

50mph. All severities: 94 (2024); 273 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 23 (2024); 67 (2023)

Slightly injured: 71(2024); 206 (2023)

60mph. All severities: 214 (2024); 1235 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 71 (2024); 401 (2023)

Slightly injured: 143 (2024); 834 (2023)

70mph. All severities: 52 (2024); 259 (2023)

Killed or seriously injured: 12 (2024); 73 (2023)

Slightly injured: 40 (2024); 186 (2023)

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 114 points 3 months ago (7 children)

“We still suspect that implementing the 20mph on the basis of saving lives is a smokescreen for the real reason behind the legislation..."

Anyone know what they think the "real reason" is?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 96 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Very likely about the war on car, where car and freedom is being "oppressed" because car people think they're the most oppressed despite the privileges of having city pave way for them to go everywhere they pleased, so they can drive like a drunken goose they are.

But of course cyclist are bad because we don't follow rule.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 44 points 3 months ago

Car drivers - the ultimate snowflakes.

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago

Siphoning off extra revs for powering woke.

[–] rosamundi@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

the New World Order, the World Economic Forum, you won't be allowed to leave your neighbourhood because 15 minute cities are coming with guards and checkpoints.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Increased income through fines

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Do you have any studies that show an increase in ticket quantity in relation to a reduction of speed limit? I would love to read about it.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If it were the United States it would be to funnel more money to police departments via higher tickets.

A person who speeds in a 30mph zone isn't going to stop speeding when the limit is lowered to 20; the ticket will just be more expensive.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They could always just not break the law. A radical solution, I know...

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That would be nice. Of course, the law would have to be made with safety in mind, and not money-grubbing.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Isn't that the exact case for these 20mph zones? To make the streets safer.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Why does ticket revenue go to police departments?! That's pretty fucked up.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 months ago

It probably involves Jews.

[–] rockkicker@kbin.run 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Naich@lemmings.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] rockkicker@kbin.run 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

THE SPEED LIMIT TODAY

ME TOMORROW

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE.

[–] rockkicker@kbin.run 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

think about it

if the government can freely impose a speed limit without being bound by these things called HUMAN RIGHTS, like the right to TRAVEL (not drive), then literally what is standing between them doing that and them dispatching their robotic mind control spiders that will drill into my brain while i sleep and make me dance like THEIR PUPPET

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

That was a measured escalation.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 8 points 3 months ago

Fair enough. I thought it was going to be some sort of weird conspiracy theory. Yes, I think the spider rollout is due to start as soon as the 20MPH zone is established outside the Sainsbury's in Chipping Sodbury.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Naich@lemmings.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Eh? Can anyone explain in a way that isn't gibberish?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

The joke is that the reason is gibberish.

Please clap.

[–] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

He may be referring to https://control.fandom.com/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Control

I don't know why, but that's all the dots I can connect