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LoglineWhen the Doctor and Ruby meet The Beatles, they discover that the all-powerful Maestro is changing history.


Written by: Russell T. Davies

Directed by: Ben Chessell

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[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I enjoy this one a lot more in retrospect - the first time around, I didn't really connect with it, but there's some real good stuff in this one.

A few weeks ago, I went back and watched "Pyramids of Mars", and discovered that the scene where the Doctor brings Ruby to the "present" to reveal it's been devastated closely mirrors the Doctor doing the same to Sarah Jane in that story, which is appropriate since "Pyramids of Mars" is the debut of Sutekh.

A Beatles story without the notoriously expensive Beatles music was a unique challenge. I will say that the actor playing John Lennon absolutely nailed Lennon's mannerisms, particularly when singing in the studio.


I've had a lot of fun with these retrospective discussions, but I think we've hit the point of diminishing returns, and going further back into the archives right now probably wouldn't generate a lot of interest. Maybe we can revisit the concept in the future.

[–] halm@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As one of the diminishing (yet remaining) returns, I'd be sad to see the retrospective discussions go. Like I've said here and in previous episode threads, I'm fascinated how my experiences change on repeat viewings.

As for the engagement, I don't see a lot of substantial Doctor Who discussion on Lemmy — neither here or in the other communities. I guess the fandom still holds on to Reddit and Twitter, and people here are more casual viewers?

I appreciate your work with this sub, and I hope gradually its user base will grow to a critical mass where it attracts at least the more savvy and/or savoury Whovians to the Fediverse 🙂

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If we had even a couple more users as dedicated as you, I think we'd be in great shape!

I think Lemmy as a whole is in a place where comments are tough to attract if the topic isn't a meme or something that makes people angry - I think that should sort itself out over time, but there it is for now.

I would definitely like to revisit the retrospective stuff, though - either NuWho or Classic Who (much of which I haven't seen). If a good excuse comes up to try again, I'll definitely do it.

[–] halm@leminal.space 3 points 4 months ago

Lemmy is, for better or worse, the privacy- and open web-oriented users who got TFO Reddit when the moderation went to hell. I guess it's telling (and to some degree positive) that most of the Who-communities have continued over there without much of a hiccup. I say "positive" because, IMO, often the debate in those communities gets ... weird. Like, parasocial, in-group weird.

What I've liked and still browse on r/gallifrey is exactly their recurring posts, sort of like these retrospects. Even if there are no news or current discussions in the fandom, you have something to return for every week. And I'd think it's a low-commitment schedule?

If we had even a couple more users as dedicated as you, I think we’d be in great shape!

You know, let's leave that here as a challenge to others for more engagement!