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Which things are Christianity “for” that the west is “against”?
@ArbiterXero @realcaseyrollins Against abortion, gay marriage, sex out side of marriage, blasphemy to God, I.e. mocking.
and all forms of Slavery. oh, drunkenness and recreational drug use.
Love the sinner, Hate the sin.
Sooooooooo nobody is forcing you into a gay marriage? How is that one threatening Christianity and putting it at risk? Is my gay marriage somehow making you risk jail time, or preventing you from having a family? Because limiting gay marriage does prevent some people from having families…. Can you see that difference?
Sex outside of marriage is a really heavy handed interpretation, as is alcoholic consumption, and quite frankly even gay marriage, quote scripture please for evidence.
Nobody in America seems to be actively promoting slavery, so I’m curious where that threat is coming from?
I started my life as a Christian boy, soooo I know someone making shit up when I see it.
@ArbiterXero Sorry, what I was trying to say that Christianity is AGAINST what I listed. I know far well the West is in full opposition to the Church.
Slavery today exists in various forms, human trafficking etc.
Yes, I caught that, and I’m guessing you’re fairly severely misinformed on the matter regardless of what your pastor tells you…
Which western country is FOR slavery?
@ArbiterXero Sex trade of children is slavery. No child goes willingly with full knowledge of act.
What country supports that?
@ArbiterXero USA, Europe, Latin America, South America, Eastern European countries, The African countries.
USA and others don't officially support it, true!
However, just like drugs, there is a market for both, and they are tolerated!
You’re arguing in bad faith if you say they’re tolerated.
Yes they happen, but it’s impossible to remove it entirely.
Sure the men at the top do it with impunity, but that doesn’t make it supported in the slightest, nor tolerated.
Any country that lets in illegal immigrants. Its just cheap abusable labor.
@ArbiterXero
Here's some scripture you requested.
leviticus 18:22
Ephesians 5:18:
1 Corinthians 7:2
I don't expect you to agree. But, I do pray for your well-being. All the best.
Leviticus 18:22 is debated among scholars to be about incest and that it was later translations that were about homosexuality. But it’s important to the politicians for us to keep the focus on homosexuality so we don’t see them robbing us blind. Keep hating the gays, it’s very politically important for the man that’s pickpocketing you. (That’s why they haven’t just decided that from a government perspective gays and straights all just have “civil unions” and allowing religion to define marriage any way they want. It’s such a stupidly simple answer to make all government paperwork say “civil union” but then they can’t keep you in a fervour of hatred)
Ephesians 5:18 suggests not doing it in excess, but is excess being drunk at all? Or turning yourself into a complete alcoholic? Yeah the British and Americans added details based on their own political desires at the time.
Corinthians 7:2 is AMAZINGLY heavily interpreted, especially given that until recently, an “engagement” was close enough to allow for sexual activity in nearly all sects of Christianity. Why did it change to the wedding night? Not to mention that the translations on this can be interpreted WILDLY. It reads more like “don’t fuck someone else’s wife” …. but I’m sure you won’t see it that way.