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LoglineReturning to a planet that dredges up tragic memories, Captain Pike and his landing party find themselves forgetting everything, including their own identities as he confronts a ghost from his past.

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[–] Jon-H558@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean its a little far fetched a simple helmet protects the kmal yet the enterprise hull let it through no problems (until pack modulates the shield), but wont let that get in the way of a good story.

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[–] astroturds@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A very TOS episode that I thoroughly enjoyed!

Can we let La'an have a few happy moments in this season? That woman must be riddled with PTSD by now.

It was great to finally get Pike back! Has he ever told his girlfriend that he's almost certainly going to be disabled? What a pickle he's in. I think if I were in his shoes I would have let the relationship end. The guilt must be driving him insane.

I feel like they might be messing around with the timelines so that they can save Pike from his horrendous fate and just say it's an alternate timeline compared to TOS. Normally I'd be against that, but it's Pike and I love him so much that I almost want them to do it.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The nature of a time crystal is that it’s a fixed event in every timeline forward.

Once Pike drew the crystal on Borath, it was locked in.

[–] astroturds@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I should know that, I've seen every episode!

In a kind of sad way he does have a happy ending. I just don't want it to happen to him. Poor old Pike!

[–] flamingmongoose@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Enjoyed this very much, the tone was very creepy. Reminded me of the psychological horror episodes only TNG really did.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would link it back to psychological mystery of The Cage and further to its touchstone, the MGM 50s classic Forbidden Planet.

[–] regeya@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rigel 7 is literally a callback to The Cage

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[–] FormerGameDev@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Outside of Pike and Batel's relationship, are there any points in this episode that look to connect to anything else in the currently ongoing plotline in SNW? I didn't really notice anything, it seems like this might be the most standalone episode.

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[–] Tired8281@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't understand that dude, needling the dude with no memory who was beating on him, then acting all surprised when that same dude puts a gun on him. Like, what was he trying to do? It seemed like he was trying to get Pike to kill him, but then he wasn't. Wtf?

[–] FelipeFelop@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

It was implied that the trauma of being left behind, the things that happened to him when he lost his memory, the memory of those things when he entered the castle and the things he did to become ruler caused to him to become insane.

[–] crazycanadianloon@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The way I read the scene was that he was so high off his power that he thought with the tables turned and Pike having no power that he would have the upper hand. But Pike managed to subdue him and High Lord Zacarias was all of a sudden staring down the barrel of a phaser rifle and all of a sudden wasn't so confident that the Pike he knew, who would lower the weapon once the combatant was subdued, was still there. I think the sudden switch was just an "OH shit, what have I done?" moment.

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[–] concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's good to see Kirsten Beyer back in the writer's room. It could be her that this episode reminds me of Workforce from VOY where the away team forget about their identities and keep on working for the planet government.

I felt the pacing was a bit rushed at the end and the episode could have given more time to explore the Kalar man's memories and history so his arch is more earned.

[–] polymorphist_neuroid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OK, can someone help me out? I had major deja-vu with the scene where Spock tells Ortegas she can't go on the ~~field trip~~ away mission. Wasn't there another episode where Ortegas was about to get to go on an away mission and got told she couldn't at the last minute? Or did I maybe see that scene in a preview or something?

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[–] Azfaa@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have loved SNW from the get go but I think its great that to me at least every episode has been great. I don't think I have felt meh or bummed out by any singular one so far. Comparing to TNG and DS9 who had quite a few meh episodes. That is great imo

[–] thomasb2k@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I agree, this show has knocked it out the park. It's in the top 3 for me; TNG, DS9, and SNW. The order changes regularly ;)

[–] timeisart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

oh wow tf was that lol.. didn't know I was signing up for Strange New Worlds: Dementia Simulator..! , great episode!

[–] sabremows@meow.social 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm primarily curious about Batel's job responsibilities. Her main job seems to be as a JAG officer but she also has a field command on the Cayuga?

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