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[–] thayer@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

Nice! A big thanks to the dev team that keeps this project going. Can't wait to see what finds its way into K9 (and the rebrand!).

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 32 points 4 months ago

Thanks for reminding me to check my emails.

Also Thunderbird is great. Big thanks to the developers.

[–] shaked_coffee@feddit.it 23 points 4 months ago

Imho the card view redesign was more than needed, thank you!

Big kudos to the thunderbird team, since the supernova announcement they've done a really good job

[–] Hector@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The new inbox is a lot easier on the eyes. I'm loving it.

[–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yea it looks awesome, another W for the open-source community!

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago

I honestly love the new nested replies in email chains they added to the inbox view a few months ago. It makes a messy inbox so much less messy looking

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm a longtime Thunderbird user and don't get all the changes they make. It's a good functional client. I would rather want to see the parts not neccessary needed for an email client to able to disable, such as Calendar, Tasks and Chat. I use the RSS Reader, so that News REader functionality would be on for me. But can't we disable all the other modules?

This and an first party integrated system tray icon showing number of unread messages would be extremely helpful (and maybe optional notifications). I'm baffled why these things are not builtin, but a Chat?

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would be in favor of having these things as modules you can compile in or leave out.

Addons would not be possible as they probably do too much stuff.

100% on the notifications, tray icons dont matter, but working desktop notifications are a must and it is insane that they dont work.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well I don't agree on that tray icons wouldn't matter. They are very useful. But either way, it would be good to have the option for these two very basic and important functionality. On the compile flags, that would even be better, as these modules wouldn't be in the final binary / install anymore.

But I would be just happy if we could turn the modules off in the options, so the actual Thunderbird client is less cluttered, less possibilities of bugs affecting me and lighter on resources. Why not get rid of them entirely and make standalone applications? It would free some development resources too, for the core Thunderbird mail client.

Maybe switching to a lighter alternative is a good idea.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

The biggest effect would be ditching Firefox ESR and running as a webapp.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i've been on it for a while since i'm on the beta channel but it's such a nice release. the thunderbird does good work and i urge you to do a monthly donation to them.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Gonna second this! They deserve every penny they get!

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lets test that exchange feature right away!

[–] techMayhem@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Exchange features aren't in yet. They plan to release it in a 128.x version as it wasn't ready for today due to technical reasons.

[–] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

The article explains its available as an experimental option tucked away in the options

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

Better than releasing unfinished stuff. We are talking about a syncing protocol and potential data loss here.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks very slick, just wished i had the paid version of proton to be able to try it out

[–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought Proton Mail's free tier offered third party email client support, it just needed some kind of decryption thingy running in the background?

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah no the decryption thingy is a feature of the paid plan

[–] sgibson5150@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Did they find a way to cram even more stuff into the title bar?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can't click to raise thunderbird from behind another window without clicking on something "functional" anymore...

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man, I'm having such a bad day for trying to click on "dead space" on a window where there is none. Sounds like tbird drove off the same cliff.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Hrm.. I just changed (in KDE) "right click" in inactive windows to be "Activate and Raise" rather than "Activate, raise and pass click". I never liked this behavior for left-click before, but maybe having it as a right-click will help.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

Apart from the message filter bar...

[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not to be that guy, but they fixed the IMAP data eating bug in 128 right? Somebody put me at ease please.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like it may be time to see if I like Thunderbird over Evolution again. Does it support Exchange sync natively yet?

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

According to the post, ~~yes~~ not yet

EDIT: I misread

[–] nickiam2@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not yet. It will be integrated in a layer point release

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago
[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

How I wish Firefox forked and ran like this rather than be beholden to the ad money of Google.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Once your concussion goes away, you should rewrite this.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 4 months ago

Lol. If you replace “with” with “wish” it should make more sense.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

There's unfortunately no getting around that maintaining a secure and performant web engine is a highly expensive endeavour. There's a reason why it's just Google, Mozilla, and Apple left (and Apple doesn't even try to implement all the web standards).

If not Google, it'd probably be Bing, or some other extremely wealthy company trying to get something out of Mozilla.

Every time Mozilla has tried to diversify their income, people complain about them trying to make money/commercialise. I mean I don't like it either, but they're in a tough spot.

They're seen as evil bastards if they take money, and they're seen as evil bastards when they try to make money.

At least with Google there's a possible antitrust case if they suddenly pulled funding, given their market position, and that gives Mozilla a bit more leverage than I think they'd get with other deals.

[–] loics2@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I'm not disagreeing on them being in a tough spot when they try making money, but the corporate side of Mozilla does some shady financial stuff, only to pay their CEO.

[–] fireshell@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 months ago

Would break the fingers of the designer who, starting with 115, messed up the layout and removed the ability to keep tabs at the top of the window. Why the hell should I search there? What was the problem with searching in the toolbar?