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[โ€“] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I dont use password managers.

I just use a set of random words + random numbers, usually something related to the website, the time period (like major global events), maybe just the mood I'm in when I created the password.

Example: For Lemmy, I might use IslandMazeMouse0216 (I do not use the password btw, never used this before and now never will, don't try hacking me lol)

"Island" because the fediverse is like a bunch of islands, that formed together into one fediverse, "Maze" because this shit is confusing, and "Mouse" because the Lemmy logo looks like a mouse, 0216 because of June 12, the day the protest began, 0612, but reversed, but not reversing the 0, so 0 216.

Now I feel dumb for explaining, but also want to hear opinions.

But you see, it doesn't matter. Most websites have login limits so you can't really brute force the password. I just hate "password managers", if I were getting old, I'll probably just put my passwords inside a Standard Notes note, or just put it in a txt and use 7Z AES256 and upload it to a few cloud services.

For offline passwords, like a Windows Veracrypt encryption password, I use 5-8 random words with 5-7 random numbers and increasing the PIM.

For mobile, I use like 16-25 digits numerical pin, alphanumeric passwords are just too hard to type. I've been experimenting with long alphanumeric password + biometric, or a pin, and honestly idk which is better. I don't want someone accessing my phone while I'm sleeping, I might forget to turn off biometrics before I sleep.

I'm not gonna encourage everyone to do what I do, I am not a security expert, just some dude on the internet, but I just want to share how I deal with passwords. Feel free to criticize any flaws. ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] ward2k@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Few critiques, not personally towards you at all but I really don't think people should follow this approach

People can have hundreds of different passwords across various sites this really isn't achievable

Human memory is terrible as well, it's not a matter of if you forget it's when

Storing in a standard notes file is absolutely terrible security, it's also extremely unusable once you have more than a couple passwords

I really suggest to people using a password manager, most of them have apps for your phone and plugins for your web browser to allow you to autofill. They also allow you to randomly generate passphrases/codes for different sites and the autofill means you never have to remember a single one whilst having extremely strong passwords

I'd recommend looking into either Bitwarden or 1Password

[โ€“] soloner@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't use the random generated passwords cuz they're hard to read. And some dumb forms disable copy/paste stuff.

I get all my passwords from usapassphrase.net, and then usually capitalize the words, separated by periods, with 69 appended to the end.

It's easy to remember or type, and it also typically works for password rules around casing, numbers, and special character inclusion. Plus 4 word passphrases tend to be a lot of characters, providing a nice long password which is good for security.

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[โ€“] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

Lastpass for like, a decade. I can't understand how anyone can not use one.

[โ€“] Severopol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm trying out Bitwarden after moving to a Sony phone (my Samsungs came with their inbuilt password manager) however it keeps asking for a master password all the time. Is that normal?

[โ€“] randomTingler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can enable biometrics, if your device has a fingerprint sensor. If the phone doesn't have one, you can setup a PIN for easy unlock.

Both are available in the settings.

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[โ€“] Ad4mWayn3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I'm probably an ignorant paranoid about them, I know I should google a bit of them, but instead I'm going for the ol' trusty ask the community.

Do they save your passwords locally or in the cloud? If locally, what if I want to sign in in another device? What if I lose the device I have my passwords on? What if they hack my device? If in the cloud: How can I know the service is not stealing my information? If I can access it anywhere, wouldn't that mean it also needs a password? Wouldn't that make it twice as unsafe as it would only take one password to access the rest?

Edit: Damn, I got extremely useful answers, I'm starting to like lemmy!

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[โ€“] kamen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

For a very long time I only used browser stored passwords; at one point I wanted to use Vivaldi on my smartphone, but at the beginning it didn't have password sync, so I had to figure out something. I think this is when I first tried LastPass, but got discouraged from using it by 1) their security incidents and 2) them removing mobile device sync from their free tier. This is when I switched over to BitWarden, which I've been using ever since; I'm currently even considering hosting my own instance of it.

[โ€“] PersonalDevKit@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I held off on using a password manager for a long time. I used an open source one for my buisness for a while but almost lost the file in a computer failure, lucky I had a backup.... . somewhere.

After that I looked at a cloud option and finally settled on one, then the business died down and I kept using it for my personal stuff. I can't believe I didn't use one earlier. Life is so much easier now, no need to go between my bad password, Medium, and strong. Everything just gets a random password now and no need to worry about a string of 2fa messages hitting my phone when a password gets pwned.

[โ€“] erev@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Self hosting one isn't difficult and allowz you to maintain a high level of security

[โ€“] Merc_@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Used Dashlane for years. Works great on PC, android, macs. Comes with VPN which i rarely use but nice to have when needed.

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