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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 128 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I have an m2 iPad pro. The last thing it needs is more processing power, what it needs is better software to make use of the power that it has. I’d love to run full OS X on it considering I paid more than some MacBooks.

[–] applepie@kbin.social 51 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

Yeah weird shilling hardware power at this point into tech cycle.. short of ML/AI work loads for GPUs, we have enough power for every day shit.

We need better software products to utilize them but all we got is fucking ad laden trash and spyware with every app.

Big tech lost their fucking minds.

[–] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

We need better software products to utilize them

100%.. for example.. they used Diablo Immortal as the example for the new ray tracing capabilities LOL

Common iPadOS L

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[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Same thing with my 2018 iPad Pro honestly. More ram and a better display? Maybe, but other than that it’s completely software limited

[–] zib@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a developer, I find it pretty frustrating having to deal with constant hardware updates. By the time you get something released that takes advantage of the hardware you have, you're already at least a generation or two behind.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel the same way. I feel like we used to buy things and hold onto them for a while, nowadays, everything seems to be designed to have a single year lifecycle. I like AirPods but now that their battery died and I can’t replace them, I’m looking at going back to the cord. But now of course we’re in dongle hell since there’s only one port..

[–] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Check out the Fairbuds from Fairphone.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 75 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I love how microchips look like really well-organized Factorio maps

[–] PHLAK@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's because that's exactly what they are.

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It's all ~~ones and zeroes~~ factorio once you get to the bottom.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

My CPU needs more iron

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

All must be fed to the god factory!

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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That M4 and OLED screen is gonna display the SHIT out of some sheet music for me.

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I get the sarcasm, but isn't that exactly what E-Paper tablets are really good at?

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

isn't that exactly what E-Paper tablets are really good at?

I would love to use an e-Ink screen, because they play much better with stage lighting.

However, I’ve yet to see one that can do what I want the iPad to do, sheet-music-wise. I don’t only want to see it, I want to be able to make markings, scan scores, act as a pitch pipe and metronome, have an onscreen keyboard to plunk out the part I’m singing if I’m struggling to read it, etc.

Edit: Realistically, I could use my phone for the scanning, pitch, metronome, and keyboard. But I want to be able to quickly make markings and the iPad shines at this, especially with the app forScore.

(That also isn’t the only thing I use my iPad for, just the main excuse I have for owning one. I actually probably will buy the M4 Pro, but mainly because I already have a buyer for my current iPad and because it’s so much lighter.)

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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 60 points 6 months ago (3 children)

the M1 is still overkill for 99% of ends user tasks.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 64 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The primary benefit for the average consumer tends to be longer battery life due to the same task using less power, in theory anyway.

[–] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure but I already charge my iPad about once a week and it's never flat - 13 hours for video playback if you watch one or two TV episodes a day goes a long way.

I guess they could add a smaller battery, but I don't think that would reduce the weight by much — it's pretty small.

What iPads really need is better software. Safari, for example, is vastly inferior to the Mac version. And don't even get me started with how window management works on an iPad. It's total garbage.

Maybe with better software, I'd use it for something more computationally demanding than watching TV.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Sure, if you use it for an hour a day, you're not gonna notice it much. And I'm not disagreeing that a lot of the software sorely needs to be improved. The people who are going to notice aren't you. They're the ones using their devices all day for work or similar.

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

More powerful hardware makes tasks that were previously not considered end-user tasks feasible for end-users, just give it some time.

[–] junderwood@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Agreed! My trusty little M1 air has been my absolute favorite computer I've ever owned. It's just so darned capable and entirely silent. It does everything I need it to do and then some. I'll upgrade sometime, but for now long live the wedge!

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Ah again. One more moving target to chase for the nice AsahiLinux project.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

That just means asahi linux not gonna die and will be really long lived project because it have a clear purpose, well, it is if we try to have positive outlook on situation

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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Will the M4 be used in new MacBook Airs, or is that a completely separate SoC? I’m not familiar with Apple’s hardware anymore.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

One BILLION dollars for 32 gigs of ram.

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I still can't run basic ml stuff. I can't play the vast majority of video games. I have to put up with the same sentiment that Microsoft brings to their products, that you are just renting your computer from Apple. The hardware looks bad ass. Too bad its apple.

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Going from 1 TB to 2 TB SSD on this iPad is somehow $400? That is a clown price but it is a 50% discount on going from 512 GB to 1 TB. What the actual fuck?

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[–] elgordio@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it’ll come to the Air’s and the Mac Mini at some point. I suspect it’s actually cheaper to make on the new process node (it’s the second generation of TSMC’s 3nm process), so maybe it won’t be too far off.

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[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The iPad Pro screen looks pretty good, but don't need all that processing power to just watch videos and browse websites.

Was really hoping they would upgrade the iPad Mini.

[–] iarigby@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

ipad pro is specifically marketed for artists and their software actually needs power and speed. Having OLED on mini would be great. It’s one of my most beloved devices.

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[–] pastabatman@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Top sku iPad pros with the keyboard case cost more than some MacBooks and people try and use them like MacBooks, which is crazy to me given the severe limitations of iPadOS compared to macOS.

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[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Does M3/M4 support AV1 encoding?

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Does any one care?

There was so much hype on this generation of silicon and the landing has seemed extremely flat to me, largely because Apple.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I like keeping tabs on it, as they're really the only ones pushing mainstream high end ARM chips at the moment.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Don't forget about the new Snapdragon X series. I heard they were pretty good, on par and better than M3s.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 10 points 6 months ago

Hoping they have success, but to say that their laptop chips are truly mainstream, at least in the same sense that Apple gives, is a bit generous I feel.

Obviously the X series has a decent shot at changing that, which I really hope it does.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I heard they were pretty good, on par and better than M3s.

I only saw that claim in an article where they explained that those chips (Snapdragon) aren't anything special. Apparently yet another case that a company uses misleading benchmarks.

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

Advances in Arm chips make the journey of porting software look better for devs, once a project starts porting it gets easier for other architectures (like riscv).

That and silicon competition is good. Keeps them forced to produce better or cheaper products to compete.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you just mean M4? Or all Apple Silicon?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Everything since the M1. Mind blowing hype, graphs that seem shocking at announcement. Data that comes in below these graphs, then owing to the extremely high walls of the garden, a sigh and shoulder shrug at what you can do with the technology, because although cool and seemingly very powerful, you just can't do much with it because of apples buisness philosophy.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have recently bought older generation 12.9" iPad Pro and an M2 MBP through Backmarket at a fraction of the price. I'm primarily a Linux user but I bought the iPad for the screen and the MBP for music production. Even though they are years old, they still have more processing power than I need.

[–] reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I just finished the full soundtrack of a theatre play using AsahiLinux on my M2pro mbp. I resorted to macos only to render some heavy video tracks.

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[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

So raytracing will be supported in iPad apps now...

So far the M4 seems to only be announced for the iPad.

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