What is the "midwest"?
any state i mistake for ohio when looking at a map of the US is part of the midwest
this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
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Core Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa
Upper Midwest: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Outer Midwest: ND, SD, Nebraska (parts at least)
I will never recognize: Missouri
Everything else below Nebraska is "Plains" IMO.
South of the Ohio River is upper south.
Western PA and Pittsburgh can be "Midwest" if it wants, but the rest of PA isn't and the majority of the state doesn't qualify, so we'd have to balkanize.
I will never recognize: Missouri
Agreed Missouri doesn't count, (former) slave states can't be midwest
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Ohio’s often an is or isn’t it inclusion in the Midwest for good reason. We’re kinda split between Appalachia, the Great Lakes/Northeast, the Midwest, and the South. And, with all that the Midwest is probably the dominant bit by landmass, but one of the weaker areas by population.
(Also an original mostly-lurker hexbearite, and probably primarily responsible for midwest.social starting to see our communities. 👋)
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Does the midwest only include the US? I'm wondering if Toronto counts as part of the midwest.
Fuck if I know I'm from California lol, and this is just the kind of questions and debate I hoped to spur from this shitpost.
No. Midwest is a US thing, I think the Canadian analog would be the Prairies
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Is Buffalo Midwest? I feel like it makes no sense to call Toronto Midwest unless northern NY state is.
Windsor is kinda Midwest because it's Canada Detroit in that it used to have manufacturing but doesn't have as much anymore, and it's literally next to Detroit.
Is Midwest a vibe? A geographic area? Both? As someone Canadian it seems to be the flyover states that have cities with the vibe of a large town rather than a real city. I've also never been to that part of America so idk either.
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Toronto and southern Ontario is definitely Great Lakes and would be part of any balkanized Great Lakes Commune. Northern Ontario is just too different. The St Lawrence plus its watershed is its own thing too, maybe Maine or northern bits of Vermont could in it but it's different from New Engalnd and Acadia.
Maritimes would obviously envelop Newfoundlound but would resist New England. New Brunswick MAYBE might be part of Quebec remnants or St Lawrebce Watershed. Northern Quebec would split off the St Lawrence watershed.
There already is a thing in northern Alberta and BC called the Peace Region and it was a thing all the way back before the settlers came. Southern Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba would probably be in some confederacy depending on if Alberta could chill enough. Southern BC obviously just aligns with Cascadia.
Ontologically, the Mid West is the polar opposite of the Middle East.
No further questions.
very flat
michigan has hills 
But is Michigan the midwest?
i've never heard anyone dispute that
I've heard it as upper midwest also but I guess that still counts
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The "midwest" is more than a region. Maybe it is an idea, a world-historical landmass, light itself. North America is too small for it.
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The Old Nothwest became known as the Midwest as the US expanded further westward. The heart of the Midwest is therefore Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota. This is objective fact. 
Iowa gets in on a corn and casserole-based technicality, but the Dakotas, Nebraska, and Kansas are wheat-growing plains states. Missouri is the south.
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Kanye's nickname since 2013
The area East of Colorado, North of Kentucky, and West of Pennsylvania
Any place where hot dogs have every single veggie in the food pyramid loaded on top.
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some folks wanted a new silly struggle session
Idk because I'm not an USArian. Nyaaa
Radical take:From the Eastern Rockies to the Western Applachians/Catskills/Adirondacks
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Any US state without coastline, excluding New England.
See now this is the kind of controversial take I was hoping for
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If I can't remember where a state is, or what its called, or forget to name it when naming all 50 states, thats a midwest state
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DFW and everything north of it. Get mad at me now! 
I'm not American but even I know that the midwest is The Real America™.
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Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. if you go west of that, it's Great Plains
My thoughts, which is 100% right: 
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Dang, that’s very Almost East thing to do.
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What is the "midwest"?
ISN'T THAT WHERE AMERICA EXPORTS ALL IT'S EMO AND POP-PUNK FROM?
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The former northwest territory and some adjacent regions.
Chicago, apparently
As someone not from the Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, northern Kentucky (specifically from metro Cincinnati down through Owensboro but not Paducah, and including Lexington), lower Michigan, Illinois (except for Mississippi alluvial plain) and most of Wisconsin.
Minnesota is it’s own cultural area that could or could not include northern wisconsin and the upper peninsula (greater Minnesota), nd sd ne ks is the Great Plains, and Iowa and Missouri I have no clue what to do with. St. Louis might be the Midwest that’s the only part up for debate here.
I’m objectively correct and you hate it
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