What's a "pavement princess"?
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An "off-road" vehicle that's never been off-road
I heard it from my truck friends, and this is what I understand too. A truck driver who "has" to own a truck for some flimsy reason, but end up driving it to their office every day. The truck never (or rarely) goes off road, tows anything, or is used for actual truck things.
In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine
In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine
But how am i supposed to feel like a big man without the ability endanger the lives of everyone around me???
Oh no! Does this mean I'll need to develop an actual personality with my own likes and dislikes without following what I think will make me look manly?
Don't worry, there are many other ways to make others feel unsafe
Like a red hat!
What does one need a truck for anyway? They seen highly unpractical as working vehicles.
I know actual farmers and seems like they use a trailer more than a truck. Which makes sense, because they can just remove it when unneeded
So as a farmer here in Canada, it depends where you live and what you farm. We use a lot of trailers, but they are all pulled by truck. The most common hookup methods for large trailers are gooseneck or 5th wheel, both of which require a truck as the connection point is right above the rear axle to improve towing capacity and handling.
My farm's heavy truck is a 1-ton flatbed with tilt deck and gooseneck hitch as well as a pintle hitch. This truck allows me to pull livestock trailers, hay wagons and farm equipment, and haul pallets, tanks and bagged goods, a very versatile truck.
It also drinks fuel like you wouldn't believe, so if I'm not hauling I drive an efficient diesel car when I go to the city (~200km)
Yeah, I usually see farmers use a 4WD with a trailer, or just their tractors. Trucks aren’t really a thing here, just the occasional douchebag who has imported one from the US.
For uses like construction and other blue collar work people use vans. Lots of storage space, and it’s enclosed so protected against the elements and from theft.
They're very common in my country. Most taxis are Toyota pickup trucks. They are great on dirt roads and you can fit a lot of people, animals, and groceries in the back.
It's also great for bicycles.
I live in America and the people (princesses) here drive pickups for very different reasons.
I live in America too. Its two big continents with many countries
As someone from the USA, specifically in Texas, it's hilarious to watch people lose their minds when you tell them Mexicans or Brazilians are Americans as well.
It's like some people don't understand geography.
Hey, we have a government program in the US that pays people to learn geography. All you have to do is hold guns on world heritage sites (a friend of mine once had to secure ziggurats)
modern trucks for sure, they're - at least in the US from personal experience - frequently FAR oversized for their actual use needs.
I had an s-10 second hand in the 90s and it was crazy gas efficient and handy as a hammer. not a highway cruiser or a gigantic hauler, but it handled lumber and sod and shingles just fine. for some reason, they literally don't make a truck that size anymore. same with the Kei truck form factor - it's just gone, the only I see here in the US are old, pre-2010 stock.
They’re great for hauling medium amounts of heavy shit and for hitching. So if you’re building a whole house it may not be perfect, but you probably can put your tools in the bed and use a trailer for lumber. But if you’re a carpenter or a mason you can throw a fair amount of wood or stone or brick in the bed and it wont have an issue
This is what I do. I need a truck maybe once every year.
“MallRoad vehicle”
I've also heard "mall terrain vehicle"
Typically lifted trucks that are supposed to "look cool" like they're capable of offroading, but would get stuck the moment they actually went off road.
Ohh, so "pavement" meaning a sealed road surface?
In my head I'm trying to figure out what the footpath (U.S. "sidewalk") a.k.a. U.K. pavement fits in with the jibe.
Yeah, U.S. pavement. A U.K. pavement princess would be a Mustang. They sure don't like to stay on the road when trying to burn out.
I've never heard the term before, but my first guess would be someone who has a castle on wheels. So an SUV owner, or pickup owner who doesn't actually use it for its intended purpose.
A Chelsea tractor.
Wtf is a pavement princess
See also "Triggered by literally anything they don't understand"
A truck/ off road vehicle owned by someone that never uses it for it's intended purpose.
There's a scene at the end of the first Cars movie with the military jeep yelling at a group of them that mud won't hurt them
Apparently someone who drives an off-road-capable vehicle exclusively on-road.
It's not just driving a off road capable vehicle exclusively on road but mainly installing modifications that look like it would increase the vehicles off roading capabilities but in reality hinder it. Take the lift on the truck i posted above, it has a long travel suspension which when installed correctly would vastly improve the trucks ability to handle trails at high speeds however because they chose height over suspension travel they've created a truck with none of the benefits of a long travel suspension with a vastly increased risk of rolling over. They are trying to cosplay as a monster truck without understanding that a monster truck has tires that are almost as wide as they are tall for stability which you physically cannot do on a road legal truck without it being two or three lanes wide.
Met a guy a few days ago who had just purchased a new Chevy Silverado. The hood was at his shoulder. He installed a front camera because he can't see shit from the driver's seat. It's not even lifted.
When will the lawsuits for these fundamentally unsafe designs start?
To be fair I know few people with back problems and they say that full suspension enduro bike is their solution to ride anywhere. Even on roads.
They just need the cushioning of the rear suspension to not get their back wrecked on the first bump they ride on.
Not arguing, just curious - would suspension seatposts or stems help? Having to haul a full squish bike around i imagine would feel heavy/sluggish
Maybe, it was few years ago when we chatted about it, and suspension seatposts are niche product so they probably didn't knew about it.
this also lead me to longboarding - I loved skating short decks as a kid, but the vibration transmitted from street skateboard wheels wrecks my ability to enjoy it with knee and back pain. big, squishy longboard wheels just eat the cracks and rocks up and I can ride for hours.
My favorite vehicle I've ever owned was a 4 cylinder manual gen 1 Tacoma.
A 2010 Chrysler minivan is a superior work vehicle to modern pickup trucks in every meaningful way.
If you have a pickup with a 4 ft bed, you have an suv somebody took the back row of seats out-of, chopped the roof off of, and sold to somebody who was to insecure to drive a vehicle that didn't reassure them they're a big strong manly man.
America won't allow Japanese light duty pickup trucks to be imported because it would kill 3 separate inferior markets.
Fully agree. I think most modern trucks are a minivan but without an enclosed hatch. They're just incompatible. If you want a truck you want bedspace for hauling, it's not supposed to be a driving the family around vehicle. That's a van, or in the 70s terms that's a stationwagon. They're two completely separate vehicles.
Instead people are paying over 70k for a vehicle that does both of those things poorly.
I miss 8ft beds on small pickups