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Looks like SEO chuds are now adding 'Reddit' to the titles. (www.marginalia.nu)

submitted 7 months ago by jamyang@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 200 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Even worse, Reddit itself has been getting infected with corporate AI-generated "recommendations"

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 117 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Even worse, Reddit

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fair point

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's really strange it's still at 47 dollars in the stock market. That thing is extreamly overvalued.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Market is irrational. Donald Social is trash garbage with no future, looks like it has a $5.5 billion market cap.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

$5.5B with a yearly revenue of $4 million and a loss of $58 million. Even if they had $0 in expenses, it'd still take a little under 1400 years to earn the equivalent of their market cap.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

At least the older posts seem to be okay.

[–] recreationalplacebos@midwest.social 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean the ones where all the comments say [deleted]?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's like 1/10 or so of comments. Though it's fun seeing posts that have obviously been edited to advertise lemmy.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 points 7 months ago

Except when it's like... "I bet that was the answer I needed, crap."

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 5 points 7 months ago

Not completely though. A while ago I've had a wave of these comments on a 3 year old post of mine. They got deleted after I've reported them at least, though I don't know if that action was done by a mod of the subreddit or site-wide admin.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

And its inaccessible to a lot of people now anyway.

[–] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 139 points 7 months ago (3 children)

That's why I use "site:reddit.com" instead of just adding "reddit"

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 31 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Don't worry, I'm sure google will disable that soon in the same way they disable all the other search syntax that used to make searching a simple and easy task

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[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Advanced search techniques should be a class in 6th grade

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

Or better yet, try my filter... It's "-site:reddit.com"!

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Here's a tip:

site:reddit.com

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 43 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Makes me sad to think that this will soon be about as useful as "site:facebook.com" with the way Reddit is going.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

Yeah maybe giving corpo trash exclusivity over the sum total of human knowledge wasnt the best idea?

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

Or do this:

-site:reddit.com

[–] 200ok@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Do you think it will ever be possible to do that for all the Lemmy instances?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pretty much all content gets federated to lemmy.world so if you use site:lemmy.world that'll do it.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

If you look for something related to piracy, sadly it won't show.

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago

Kagi.com has a lens for the fediverse. A lens is basically a scope within which performing the search.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah. The best option we have imo is a service that indexes everything on one site so traditional search engines can find it. That requires someone to build it, and AFAIK that's hasn't happened.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That or the search engines themselves implement their own fediverse instances just for the purposes of indexing results. At a certain point if the platform becomes relevant enough I think we could see that happen.

I think they'd probably prefer instances that they have control over to reduce the avenues for a third party to manipulate the results. Otherwise they have to trust whoever runs the search instances.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It already works pretty well if you just add Lemmy to the search.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

Okay but reddit is also becoming inaccessible; how to migrate this data?

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I look forward to Google being forced to down rank any sites with “reddit” in the H1.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Google being forced to

What an odd phrase

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I’ve spent a lot of time working in SEO.

Search results like this can drive people away from Google and toward other resources. Google likes money, and this is why they usually try to combat spammers that are gaming the system.

It’s a cat and mouse game that has been happening for years. Organic search spammers find a new thing, then Google tweaks the algorithm to downrank what they’re exploiting.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As useful as Mozilla/5.0; AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/537.3

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Mine is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:109.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/115.0. Joke is, this is the trimmed version (about:config Xorigin and trimming settings) and some pages already have problems with it. If you strip out the OS part, pages like google.com won't work anymore. Despite that you shouldn't parse the UA string...

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What browser agent is that?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Trick is I took out the actually useful parts like Chrome, Firefox, Edge, etc. And the OS. All the agents these days have AppleWebKit and Mozilla just so old websites that look for it don't downgrade the experience.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, make your user agent absolutely unique. Too much entropy will surely confuse the shit out server side HTTP Header tracking. 😬

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having a non-unique user agent probably doesn't make you not unique.

[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh gee, I wasn't aware there was more to it than the UA. Thanks for opening my eyes.

Edit: I checked your link, most of the parameters on the test require client side execution. That (client side tracking) is absolutely unrelated to what (server side tracking) I was talking about, and is something you can control (by not allowing JavaScript, for example). Please do not confuse the two. There is literally nothing you can do against server side tracking.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Firefox doesn't pretend to use AppleWebKit. It's actually the only one which identifies itself correctly... mostly, at least:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:122.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/122.0

While about:support says "Window Protocol: wayland". But that's ok websites shouldn't care anyway.

It's other browsers who send things like "like Gecko" to sneak past old browser-detection code.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

firefox on iphone i would guess.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Probably Netscape

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

There's something very Darwinian, very artificial selection about this.

[–] MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I fucking hate seo abusers. I have to use a locally hosted ai for a lot of my "googling" because modern day search results are fucking worthless now.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 7 months ago

Stop using "reddit" and use "site:reddit.com", searchers.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 22 points 7 months ago

Google also sneak "reddit" into the "People also ask" section.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

site:reddit.com

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

Am I the only one that wants to know more about this Japanese toaster you can fuck?

Surely I'm not alone here.

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