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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brendan Eich said something similar in a JSConf talk or something 5-10 years ago as a way of summarising what had changed in the web during his time: Google is the new Microsoft, Microsoft is the new Google and Apple are the same.

[–] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I was a pretty hardcore Android “because I want choice” fanboy but Apple won my wallet over because they SEEMINGLY give two shits about privacy. Idk if it’s just a dog and pony show but it’s better than Google’s bullshit these days.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The way I see it is that Apple doesn’t need to sell your data for them to make money so they realise it’s a point of difference and advertise/commit to it as such.

It’ll last as long as it makes them money.

Although to be honest Apple has incredibly detailed data on how people use their devices so, not exactly the bastion of privacy, even if they keep that info to themselves.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Two sides of the same coin. Both want to invade your privacy. Both cancel products just after you get invested in them.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

No more Ballmer and Gates happened. Never fear though, if they're not evil today they will be once again soon.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

A choice between cow shit and manure.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Edge and chatgpt are not Microsoft product, they are Google and openai. Vs code as well is 80% a Google product. The only part of github that are responsibility of MS is co-pilot, which is the shadiest of the whole thing.

Are we sure this guy really appreciate MS?

[–] icesentry@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Vscode isn't a google product just because it's an electron app that uses chromium. Github is owned by MS so everything they do is by definition the responsibility of MS.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Github was bought as is, Microsoft contribution since take over is minimal. Vs code is a complex web app on top of chromium, that is the bulk of what delivered in vscode package, and which is made by Google.

Just this, Microsoft is cleaning its reputation mainly using other people work, and vs code...

[–] Spiritreader@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not sure I agree with that statement.

It's like saying using a computer means that any program on it belongs to the makers of the operating system because you need that to run it. Or every Java program was made by oracle because you need the JVM to run it.

VS Code is its own software (and service nowadays), and yes it builds on chromium in part. But doesn't make the idea, the actual application, i. e. what's on top of chromium or other associated service owned by someone else.

I do agree that many software devs and companies rely on Chromium and thus Google, often too much, and I don't think that's a good idea But they definitely retain ownership of the code and associated functionality on top.

[–] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was just making an hyperbole for the guy praising Microsoft against google while praising tools built on Google technologies.

Like shitting on java while praising eclipse

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I see we don't use windows computers eh?