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[–] Xabis@lemmy.world 209 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s so they can print the tracking dots.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 139 points 7 months ago (5 children)
[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 58 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I do love it when a snopes article is about something being true.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I had no idea. I thought the joke was needing full ink in an unrelated color. I didn’t know about tracking. I’m sadly unsurprised.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's for the purpose of serialization for counterfeit purposes. Also, high end copiers have a device installed called the BDU (Bill Detection Unit) that all scans pass through before being post processed. If the BDU detects a bill being scanned it can error and shut down the whole device until the manufacturer can send someone out to fix it. I used to be one of those people resetting BDUs at schools where a teacher thought it was a good idea to copy images of money for teaching students.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That, and tracking down anyone else the government doesn't like, apparently.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

feature originally intended as a deterrent to counterfeiting currency with laser printers.

Honestly, the USA is something special. So they do this, instead of putting modern anticounterfit (like polimer notes with transparencies) measures onto their notes.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think it isnt to stop it, it is to get a conviction.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

This is what I mean. It's bolting the stable door after the horse has bolted. This lists the security features on a $5 note, and here's for a £5 note.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

In addition to not in lieu of. The US works very hard on preventing counterfeiting, including the creation of the Secret Service.

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[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

consumers will not notice any difference in the performance or effectiveness of products equipped with this technology.

I believe they missed this part of the memo

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 7 months ago

It's obvious, more ink used = more profit. The government get the tracking they want, the printer company is slightly more profitable due to extra ink usage, and the customers got fucked. Win-win!

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hold up... Was "Reality Winner" the name of an individual or a business? Like, I was stunned by the fact the yellow dots thing is a thing, but then it starts talking about "Reality Winner" and I can't move on until I know what's up with that name. lol

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She is a former NSA translator who sent some classified documents to The Intercept. The Intercept failed to redact the document properly allowing the NSA to view identifying marks on the printout and track her down. I believe she has been release from prison.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

i wonder: so what do the laser printers use instead?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

I can't find the article I read, but if I recall correctly, they use patterns of minute variations in the power of the laser to cause a machine-detectable pattern to appear in the final printed output.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They also use microscopic yellow dot patterns. Black and white only prints use a microscopic grey print pattern at the print boundary. The technique is a form of steganography. They aren't tracking you btw. It gets used primarily to investigate fraud. Printer companies do it primarily because if they don't, their brand will become associated with print related crimes. There are lists of printers that do not do steganographic serialization but those machines are almost entirely too poor quality to produce any convincing counterfeits anyways.

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[–] Buffman@lemmy.world 95 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (6 children)

My wife found a black and white Brother laser MFP at Goodwill for $15 and it has been an absolute game changer for us.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Welcome to the Brotherhood.

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[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

After losing my third or fourth shitty inkjet since college in a recent move, I needed to print something and found myself once again browsing the Staples flyer.

Eventually decided to spend a bit more up front and just got a Brother color laser.

Now it sits there quietly in the corner for months at a time, doing nothing, until I need it, at which point it is always ready, fast, and has great print quality.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Picked up a refurbished laser printer at a garage sale 8 years ago. I still haven't had to change the ink cartridges

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I hope not, given that thing doesn't have one!

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ha jokes on you, I'll just call HP Painters instead! 😜

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They're a good choice if you want your house bricked.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

oh no what are you doing step Brother Laser Printer

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hey no PrintHub content here, this is a family friendly sub

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why would you paint a house brick?

Just call Brother painters and they will give your house a powder coat for 1/10th the cost!

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I went to Best Buy. They have two options. Shit and more shit.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Don't sign up for HP Instant Amontillado.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for calling HP Painters! We would be happy to complete your painting job for the low, low price of $200! That's the up-front cost, then just a small subscription of $100/month on a 10-year contract.

Thanks again for calling, you can send in your deposit of your first born child to

    HP Painting & Blood Extraction Services
    666 Hells Way
    Gary IN 46407
[–] CynicRaven@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I love that they're located in Gary.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Until you get a call from them saying the can of unused paint has passed it support date and you need to purchase a new one, but we don't sell those outright any more you need to get a $20/m subscription.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

And you have to buy them yellow paint NOT because they ran out, but because it got caked in the hose and clogged it up.

[–] FatTony@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't have a Brother printer. It was not the best purchase I ever made (because I do not own one).

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Uncannily relevant, I just had this happen with my Epson printer the other day. Is there any printer you can get these days that doesn't do this?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Brother BW laser. Can't require yellow ink if it only uses black toner.

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[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

if you just need to print documents and other boring stuff, get a bw laser printer.
my canon mf3010 still works pretty well, even after like 7 years of use.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

CMYK printing typically uses CMY only for black/grey generation up through a certain point. When I'm profiling my printer at work for transmissive printing, I can set that in the profile at about 50%; anything less than 50% gray is going to be CMY only.

And here's another fun fact; pure black ink (or toner) doesn't give you very good blacks. If you use only black when you're printing the darkest areas, you end up with a very washed out looking blacks. The best blacks are achieved with 400% ink coverage, using 100% of each ink channel.

Text is the only place where you can get away with only using black and still have it look good.

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So I’ve come across enough comments to know that Brother is the way I’m supposed to go for document printing if I don’t want to deal with enshittification. What if I want to print photos though? I don’t think Brother covers me in that area.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago

Everyone says just go to the store. It doesn't cost too much and it'll be higher quality than any printer you can buy.

[–] Ehoalid@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 7 months ago

My color laser from Brother prints photos well enough for most of my uses for quick off things. But if want an actually high quality photo, I use Walgreens or the like. My prior inkjets was only in between the laser and the professional qualities anyway.

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Okay guys, you literally made me decide and go buy old Brother printer for $20. Didn't have a printer and didn't realize good printers can get so cheap on secondary market.

Going home :3

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[–] Doof@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I get the joke but depending on the grey they may be using a bit of yellow if they want a warmer grey for example.

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