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I posted this question because I once saw a tweet that said something like:

"If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank"

What is your opinion on this? Do you agree with them?

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[–] baggins@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

I do, because they are my devices and I get to choose what they do. Not some content creator.

[–] imkmiaw@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Been using adblock for years now, I haven't seen a single ad on my devices since then.

Last week my wife used her iPad so we could watch a video and I saw 2 ads in a row, it was kind of a strange experience.

If a creator needs money I'll donate directly to them, and if the only way to support is ads, then what a shame, I'm not gonna watch ads just because of a creator.

[–] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I do, and I don't care if creators and companies that are already rich aren't getting 50 cents more.

[–] little_water_bear@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wow, there are a lot of comments describing how neccessary it must be to use adblock. I don't think I can actually change anyone's mind here, but I'm going to share my perspective anyway:

While I don't agree with the statement quoted in the original post, I do think that ads are neccessary for most websites I visit to function. Not because of the content creators, but because of the companies running the platforms.

I know, ads can be problematic. But to outright block all ads is no solution. Privacy and data protection are very important to me, so I'm against every form of targeted ads. But just generic or maybe contextual ads? I don't see any harm in that. Malware is mentioned often in other comments. I disable JavaScript whenever I can. That's absolutely enough for blocking all ads to not make any real difference in terms of security. Although I have to admit that blocking scripts also blocks some ads.

But still, I see all ads on YouTube and search engines for example. And I'm happy to see them. It's incredible that such platforms, providing so many people with access to so much content from so many other people can actually exist. There are a lot of resources needed for this.

And if I still don't want to see ads simply because I don't want to? Then I don't have to, even without any adblockers. If I don't think a website is worth the ads it thinks it needs to show me, then I don't have to use it. I can just leave. If it is easy to provide the same service without ads then there must be countless alternatives already.

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[–] series_editor@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

i block a lot of the excessive tracking, but not all ads specifically. i think its better to not go to the site at all and find a competitor that does not have as many ads. going to the site whenwhen you have that bad of an issue with it sends a bad signal to the people running the site.

[–] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I use ublock origin: https://ublockorigin.com/

The internet is unusable without a good adblock.

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I use adblock (uBlock origin) because the internet is nigh unusable otherwise. It's incredibly risky (even irresponsible) to not have adblock turned on given the danger of malware, or malware in the guise of advertisements. However, I'd whitelist sites that are decent about it--though in practice, I find it risky to temporarily disable my adblock just to test things, much less to whitelist them.

Most of all, there are other, better, ways to support content creators in the internet.

[–] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes. When I visit my parents, who don't use adblocker, I get really anxious when I have to face the enormous flood of ads that you get without it. I wouldn't be able to concetrate to anything if I were interupted frequently with ad breaks. I also hate how ads volume loudness has been maximized, so they sound more loud than normal content.

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[–] notun@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Adblock and Sponsorblock. Also Enhancer for Youtube that hides those pesky YT Shorts.

Why? Fuck ads, that's why.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Advertising is a form of hostile content. Advertisers mean us harm. They might have some tenuous moral right to try to expose me to their manipulation, but I am not obliged to co-operate and my moral right to protect myself is much stronger. This is implicit in every form of advertising. You are not doing anything immoral by buying a magazine and then not reading any of the ads it contains.

Arguments against ad blockers require that there are not alternate ways of exploiting content production, or any reasons to produce content other than financial gain.

[–] caffeine@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If I really like a creator, I’ll donate to them. Ads are an intrusion on privacy, and everybody has the right to block them without moral backlash.

@tsukii I don't use adblocker but I use Safing's Portmaster and Vivaldi Browser with built-in ad-and-tracker-blocker enabled plus uBlock Origin - using plus Librewolf as well.


Hope that helps πŸ₯°

[–] drifty@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lmao yeah uBlock Origin reks the internet fr. After chromium shifts to manifest v3, I'm switching to librewolf and uBlock to retain the same experience I've been having

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am currently using LibreWolf (I am assuming that's what you meant by librefox), and aside from getting used to a non-chromium-based browser (which is almost all of them nowadays), it's really fine.

Besides, why wait to try it out? Get used to it before you have to.

[–] drifty@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Ah yes LibreWolf my bad I'll edit the og comment. Yes I do use it side by side, by switching I meant solely using that then

[–] kleinheld@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I use adblock almost everywhere, except for a few sites with decent ads and creators I support.

Apart from that, I try to support the few creators I appreciate the most in other ways.

[–] rDrDr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Ever since my Unifi Dream Machine Pro router was updated with VPN and pihole functionality, I haven't needed to use any adblocking. I can route all my traffic through my home network and it blocks ads in every context, including in apps.

As might be obvious, I completely disagree with the tweet. I hate ads. They're predatory and abusive and they ruin the internet. Anybody who is willing to be responsible with ads has a donate/subscribe option anyway. The auto play video people with dark patterns etc. need to be obliterated. But I probably hate them even less than I hate sites like the New York Times, which charge a subscription fee and then fill their site and apps with ads anyway. Fuck off.

[–] PrimordialSoup@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use ublock origin on desktop. For YouTube I love Sponsorblock and started to use dearrow to remove gaping mouth thumbnails and modify click bait thumbnails.

On mobile I do not usually have an ad blocker set up so I just don't browse the Internet much at all from it. I do always use some kind of ad blocking YouTube player though. I really love sponsorblock.

I most certainly feel fine about it.

Especially since most of what I want to see is by people passionately showing off their hobby. When nobody tried to get paid for content I found I enjoyed it more. Nowadays I costume less and less content.

[–] haych@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, AdGuard Home running network wide, then on my web browsers uBlock Origin on top of that.

Many websites are a cluttered ugly mess with ads and I dislike them. And don't don't me started on trackers.

[–] squirrel_bear@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Not all creators are influencers, but all influencers are one-person ad distrubutor agencies. Most of the influencers business model is based on ad revenue and making ads themselves (collabs).

[–] BlueBear@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I use a mix of uBlock Origin and NextDNS to block ads. I would support creators if they or the platform itself can clearly mark which part is an advertisement. I also donate to creators I think are adding value with their contents. Unfortunately, majority of creators aren't being very upfront on whether or not they're sponsored, platforms are mixing advertisements with legitimate contents/results.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Neurological warfare with a side of malware? Where do I sign up

[–] BrainTheBest5@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, I do. And I do since I don't want to watch ads and being interrupted with the video. I also have a sponsorblock extention. I use those since ads are always the same. I know what NordVPN is and I won't sign up for that thing. Also, ad revenue on YouTube is near zero for creators but fir YouTuve itself I imagine it's pretty huge. So I'm bit damaging my creators. If I want to support them, I'd rather sign up for Patreon.

[–] Spliffman1@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I block ads too cause I hate them. uBlock Origin on chrome, Block This!, and YouTube Revanced on phone, STube on Android TV. Avoiding ads as much as I can like the plague. One of the reasons I never got into official Reddit app.

[–] Alpagu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If a creator is really useful, I support them directly through donations or paid subscriptions. Other than that, I can't stand ads.

[–] jvrava9@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Who does not at this point

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I block all ads, I rather tips some moneroj or sats to creators, buy some merch, etc. From my point of view giving 5$ to a creator will be more profitable for him/her than watching a hell lot of ads

[–] jimrob4@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

If someone wants me to read their site, they won't have it overloaded with intrusive ads, hammer me with popups, and plant tracking cookies in my browser.

If they do have all that stuff? I'll still read their site, but they aren't gonna make any money off me doing it.

[–] wumpus@latte.isnot.coffee 1 points 2 years ago

If I don't block ads, then I'm stealing from the advertiser who's paying per impression to someone who isn't interested in their crap.

If the ad makes noise, moves around the screen, crashes my browser, or otherwise actively interferes with my ability to obtain the information I was looking for, It'll leave me with such a negative impression that I won't buy anything from that brand, now or ever -- or from the creator who allowed them to break an otherwise good website.

So really, by blocking ads, I'm defending the good reputation of both creators and their sponsors.

[–] Schooner@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If you use adblock, you don't care about creator's point blank

This sounds a lot like not tipping being a bad thing.

Ads and tipping denigrate my daily experience. So I'm not going to suffer either.

Blocking ads is also just more secure as it's a vector for so many exploits.

In conclusion, I don't agree with them at all.

[–] Sentinian@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

I've used it for the past decade. Literally the only time I see ads is when I look at other people's devices and wonder how TF they use them.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

The argument to turn off your adblocker is like a circus ringleader demanding the audience’s money for the sake of the lion, even while he beats the lion.

[–] Copio@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't use ad blocker while at work, except to block YouTube ads.

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