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[–] Connor717@vlemmy.net 9 points 2 years ago

It shouldn’t be shocking that most people want someone better.

[–] sorchist@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"Biden remains the top contender among Democrats, however, and Trump’s lead over the other GOP contenders widened following his federal indictment earlier this month."

Given that one is the clear favorite among Democrats, and the other is the favorite among Republicans, it'd be perverse if we didn't get a rematch between them, unless that changes between now and the election.

This is how it is supposed to work in a two-party system. The favorites of each party get to compete. If there were somebody else who was the favorite of their party, they'd get to compete.

If it were a different system (e.g. a parliamentary system), then the rules would be different. Although tbh when I look across the pond to the UK, I can't say they consistently do a better job picking leaders than we do.

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[–] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fuck, why don’t we just vote for plants at this point?

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[–] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it just me or is this thread swarming with trolls?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

But will they all have a unified vote in the preliminaries?

[–] furrious09@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well there already almost a dozen republican candidates, we just need to collectively back one or two that aren’t Trump. Does anyone have any thoughts on William Hurd who just announced? I don’t know much about him.

Are there any promising Democrats that are running against Biden?

[–] Sean@liberal.city 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

@furrious09 @trashhalo
Marianne Williamson, and to a lesser extent RFK Jr are going to be ignored by outlets with the biggest audiences. If the gestalt of the Democratic Establishment is that there's no primary, the MSM isn't going to do a thing for candidates running against Biden from the left. Williamson polls at 5%-9% and RFK 10%-15% yet MSM will give all the coverage to GOP candidates who are polling under 3% and not Dem challengers.

[–] skyh@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I guess you could argue that Williamson is coming from the left, but RFK sure as heck isn’t.

We aren’t missing out on the next great president between those two if the MSM isn’t covering them as serious candidates, because the truth is they aren’t.

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[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honestly I could do without the gerontocracy. Those plotting the course of the future should have a stake in it, you know? What the fuck does an 80-year-old care if they fuck up the future? They're not going to be around to face the consequences.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

When when does what Americans want actually effect what America does? Not holding my breath.

[–] MrComradeTaco@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Both parties work for the same owners(wanting or not) so i truly don't give a fuck about a Trump-Biden rematch.

[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

GTFO with your both parties are the same bullshit.

Is capitalism and the elite ruling class controlling our society? In a lot of ways, yes. Do the Democratic Party leaders do bad things? Sure.

But the Republican party is actively engaged in taking away people's rights and freedoms. They prop up unabashed fascists.

Both parties are not the fucking same. And it's this kind of whataboutism that got Trump elected in the first place.

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[–] Skyrmir@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 years ago

The impressive part is that we have two less popular candidates than Trump and Hillary. And that election had people wishing for a meteor to end the earth.

[–] scyrp@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

so long as young people generally don't care to vote, people who have no stake in the future will be the only choices.

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