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The late-night talkshow host John Oliver has offered to pay Clarence Thomas $1m annually – as well as give him a $2m tour bus – if the Republican judge resigns from the US supreme court.

Oliver made the proposal on Sunday’s episode of his HBO show Last Week Tonight, saying the supreme court justice had 30 days to accept or it would expire.

The British-born, progressive comedian’s offer came after a steady drumbeat of media investigations in the previous several months established that Thomas failed to disclose that political benefactors bought him lavish vacation travel and real estate for his mother. Thomas also failed to disclose – as required – that he allowed school fees for a family member to be paid off and had been provided a loan to buy a luxury motor coach, all after openly complaining about the need to raise supreme court justices’ salaries.

As a result, Thomas’s impartiality came into question after he sided with the contentious ruling that eliminated the federal abortion rights once provided by the Roe v Wade case.

He also recently listened to arguments over whether Donald Trump can be removed from states’ ballots in the presidential election after the former president’s supporters – whom he told to “fight like hell” – staged the January 6 attack at the US Capitol in Washington DC. Thomas resisted pressure to recuse himself from matters pertaining to the Capitol attack, even though his wife, Ginni Thomas, is a conservative political activist who has endorsed false claims from Trump and his supporters that the 2020 election he lost to Joe Biden was stolen from him – which in turn fueled January 6.

Oliver alluded to all of those circumstances as he extended his lucrative offer to Thomas, saying: “Lot on your plate right now, from stripping away women’s rights to hearing January 6 cases … and you deserve a break, you know, away from the meanness of Washington. So you can be surrounded by the regular folks whose lives you made demonstrably worse for decades.”

The host suggested that Thomas could upgrade his “favorite mode of travel” by signing a contract requiring him to step down from the supreme court in exchange for $1m annually from Oliver along with the tour bus, which is outfitted with a king-sized bed, a fireplace and four televisions.

Oliver joked that Thomas possibly feared that making such a trade might attract negative judgment from one of his top benefactors: the Republican mega-donor Harlan Crow, who was reported to have maintained a private collection of Nazi memorabilia that included a pair of paintings by Adolf Hitler.

But Oliver said: “That’s the beauty of friendship, Clarence. If they’re real friends, they’ll love you no matter what your job is. So I guess this might be the perfect way to find out who your real friends actually are.

“So that’s the offer – $1m a year, Clarence. And a brand new condo on wheels. And all you have to do … is sign the contract and get the fuck off the supreme court,” Oliver remarked. “The clock starts now – 30 days, Clarence. Let’s do this!”

The yearly salary for supreme court justices – whose appointments are for life – is $298,500.

Neither Thomas nor the supreme court immediately commented publicly on Oliver’s offer. Oliver acknowledged he could end up going on “standup tours … for years” to be able to afford paying Thomas’s retirement if the justice accepts the proposal.

The arch-conservative is the longest-serving member of a supreme court dominated 6-3 by rightwingers. Thomas has been there since his 1991 confirmation, which was marked by testimony from Anita Hill, who accused him of sexual harassment while he supervised her in two separate jobs, at the US Department of Education and at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

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[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 65 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He won't take it. Taking the offer would basically confirm everything bad that's been said about him. It would also be admitting publicly that he will do literally anything for the right bribe. Thomas only likes to admit that behind closes doors.

[–] Dexx1s@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True, we all know he won't take it, especially considering that his benefactors would gladly match it for him to stay in his seat.

But it was a solid end to an episode outlining how scummy he is with his bribes. The episode wouldn't get as much traction as it would be seen as barely more than another call-out.

And in the one-in-a-milliom chance that he accepts, we still win.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I completely agree! It was a great "fuck you" to Clarence Thomas to really round out the episode lol

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope the ~~RV~~ motorcoach was just a leased demo

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[–] deur@feddit.nl 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes but the effect of taking the deal is that it won't matter for him anymore, because he will have retired and can hide away like the traitor he is.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

Oliver makes the point that Thomas really does agree with the views of his billionaire owners, since he held those views even before he became a supreme court justice.

So he'll stay with the job where he can accept bribes while harming society as much as possible, rather than get paid and not get to do that.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I still don't think his ego will allow him to admit that John Oliver is right about him though.

[–] audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would he take a cut in pay?

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well with all the bribes Thomas is probably on the take for, yeah, it would be.

If Thomas were only getting the legit government salary, Oliver's offer would be over three times as much per year. Not to mention he gets that... sweet RV cringes /s

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not an RV, it's a motor home!!!

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thomas has me feeling MoCo FOMO

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If it were produced by Ford you would have:

FoMoCo MoCo FOMO

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If we could extract it and whip it with egg whites we’d have FoMoCo MoCo FOMO foam.

Or we could get real crazy and mix it with a caffeinated alcoholic beverage and have Four Loco FoMoCo MoCo FOMO foam.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It feels really good having Jon Stewart and John Oliver to look forward to every week.

Just looked and seems like Mehdi Hasan found a new home at The Guardian.

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[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How did someone like Clarence come to be? Was he bullied or something, or just a massive self serving ghoul from birth?

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Behind the Bastards has some episodes on him. It's been a while so I don't fully recall, but my memory of it was that he was always kinda gross and misogynist, and he was also self serving in hus choices. Those choices didn't always make him the right wing shitbag that he is now, since he originally was part of the Black Panthers.

After some time working for black Civil rights, he saw more money on the republican side and also saw hypocrisy on the democratic side. He said something to the effect of 'They're all racists, but at least Republicans are racist to your face/honest about it'(hey that sounds familiar...)

Again I remember money being a big part of it, so I've chalked him up to just being a selfish asshole who fought for causes once that would help himself and that made him look like he was on the right side of history once.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He didn't really ever work for civil rights, he's been the token "good one" on the court his entire tenure.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I was talking about his earlier days before being in the court, where he was inspired by Malcom X and the Black Panthers, though he seemed more interested in the hard militarized image of them:

inspired by the Black Panthers.”

“He dressed like them. He talked like them. He had a beret. He had Army fatigues and he had the Army boots,” Gordon Davis, a former classmate, recalls in the above clip.

Thomas had a poster of Malcolm X in his dorm room. He reportedly boasted that he had read all of the activist’s speeches and, at one time, could have quoted some of them by heart. Thomas was not alone in his frustration with racial injustice at the time.

“I had evolved from being hopeful to being pissed off. A lot of young people in America was pissed off,” Orion Douglass, another of Thomas’ former classmates, says in the clip. “And they weren’t seeking a reconciliation, okay? They were seeking a coup, to change the whole thing.”

Edit but you're probably right that he never worked toward it. I kinda recall him being a lawyer for a while and thought he may have back then, but I could be remembering wrong.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's obsessed with the image of authority and power, the black Panthers just happened to be humbling the state of California and the federal government generally. Ie. Hes am art collector that cares about the price not the content.

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[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Take the deal man!

If only. =(

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] mister_monster@monero.town 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Good, now let's watch this supposedly corrupt bribe taking devoid of integrity man turn down a million dollars a year for every reason in the book other than his legacy and integrity which he does not have or so I've heard.

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I think that's the whole point. He knows Thomas won't take the money. It's not about the money.

Oliver is just using the money as bait, so when Thomas says "I'm not taking the money because my job is about being just and whatever.", he can fire back by pointing out everything that was discussed in the video.

Best case scenario, Thomas takes the money and retires, then Biden appoints a Democratic-leaning judge to fill the spot and bring more balance to the Supreme Court.

Worse (and most probable) case, Thomas ignores the offer for as long as possible. Pretends like it never happened. Then when someone eventually asks about it, he can play dumb or list whatever bullshit high-horse reasoning he wants, which Oliver can then point out the obvious hypocrisy and that's that.

[–] wagesj45@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you mean John Oliver.

[–] SecretSauces@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Thanks, edited. My mind was in two places when i wrote my comment.

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[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

He wouldn't do it because he wants to stay in power to harm liberals

[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

Too close to the election. Republicans will just block a Biden nomination until after the election, in the hopes of another Trump nominee.

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