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You can regularly sync your memories with your copies (either one way or both ways)

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 65 points 9 months ago (6 children)

All I'd need is one. She'd do doppelgΓ€nger work and keep me company sentimentally as well as fulfill, ahem, physical needs.

[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 34 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Interesting idea but I would utterly hate a person like me.

The old saying about "you hate in others what reminds you of yourself" feels like it was written for me!

I really need someone to contrast my personality. I'd kick clone out within minutes.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

'You can't hate me like I do. I know me better." -- Pitchshifter

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[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Your clone is only a copy of you at first, the more it experiences, the more different it becomes. That's going to cause issues eventually. They may even start working against you.

The solution is The Prestige.

The clone only exists long enough to complete a task or fulfill a purpose, but then one of us (and we don't know which) is gonna get dropped through a trap door and drowned when we're done.

[–] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You just described a meseeks box

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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Everyone has horrific qualities about them, but everyone has redeeming qualities too. I'm sure you and your clone would fight, but I can imagine you would get a lot done too

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I’d fuck myself too ;)

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[–] MxRemy@lemmy.one 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It would be very ill advised, but SO MANY. Enough to organize them. There's a mall nearby that's slowly shutting down, it's like 99% empty now, and there are homeless encampments all outside it being hassled by cops. Instead of giving it to them, it's gonna wind up bulldozed and turned into rich people condos. I'd make enough clones to occupy it and turn it into adhoc co-op housing!

...And obviously like all the boning and other stuff one does with clones as well lol.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago

Enough to enact a meaningful change in your community? That's probably the best answer I've read in this thread

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[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One clone so that I can be a stay-at-home dad without losing my income. Finally finish grad school and fix up the house. Show my kid the world when they get old enough to appreciate it. Get a second job once they start school - something to get me outside, or working with people face-to-face. That would be amazing.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago

That sounds really nice. Nothing excessive, just meeting your needs

[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Such a great short story. My first exposure to this was the Kursgesagt animated version:

https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI?si=Axn62mZ7dgE9xv87

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Me after splitting myself into any number of copies:

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 9 months ago (3 children)

None as well. The copies will have same needs, same level of lazyness. This won't benefit anyone, quite the contrary. Just more bad people.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But you could work as a team with common goals, and alleviate the strain of doing it all alone.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Blowjob centipede

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[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Going dark with it: How much are organs worth on the black market?

Keeping it light: like 4 or 5 maybe, as long as there is no degradation in capabilities I think I could feasibly let 1 do my job, then the rest and myself could pursue other intellectual endeavors. I would also always have a full D&D group and be able to play the multiplayer games I have always wanted to that never had the interest of my friends.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DnD issue: memory sync.

You're just yourself playing yourself, and all copies know what all copies are thinking.

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[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

A billion copies to lead a communist revolution. Any more than that would probably be unsustainable globally in the short term while the existing capitalist systems are being dismantled and replaced.

Or 3 or 4 clone friends to help out with daily life.

Both are cool. The latter is probably easier and what my copies could actually manage.

Edit: Actually, the ability to sync memories is so ridiculously overpowered that one could probably achieve pretty much anything with their copies.

It also seems like its usefulness would scale up exponentially the more copies you make, so I'll go with the first one.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Of it's naruto style, I would make a 100 of me, have them all find jobs for a year or two, then collapse them all back and never have to work again aince I now saved for 100+ years.

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This post could be phrased better...

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[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So what happens with my copy once I'm done with it?

Does it just continue to exist?

Do I need to kill it before it figures out that there can be only one, and kill me first?

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago
[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago

What a bunch of useless SOBs. Can't I clone somebody better?

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Imagine being the copy that has to work while one does the family and one is traveling. The ethics of making a copy of myself that is for all purposes a slave would be really weird. Enslaving copies of myself, what a concept. Oh, also one needs to be kept on away for organ needs as I age or get hurt and one with a master copy in case the main "I" dies unexpectedly. yikes

[–] Tyrangle@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

OP says you can sync memories both ways - easy solution is to just take turns.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Zero. I don't hate myself enough to put myself through this twice.

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[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

I would actually take a very different route as a contrast to others on this thread:

I would clone some 20-30 mes and do a speedrun together to gather enough funds to buy a farm, and live out the rest of my life in a commune dream with others like me πŸ₯Ή

Eventually there’d be other people joining in and I could release more and more of the clones as we gather enough saved up and finish the mortgage and all.

So eventually we’d find something of a balance at around 2-4 clones with which we’d just arrange a rotating system of guaranteeing 3 weeks of free time each between a week of work 😌

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Two clones, else it's going to start getting crowded here I think.

One of us works full time. One of us studies full time. The third would be entertainment (go see a movie, go to events, etc.). Every week, we rotate.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure my income can support a full time student and full time layabout lol

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[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I live near a few military bases, so enough to overrun the guardhouses and evict all the troops currently inside. I would need like 100,000 clones (one of the bases is pretty big).

Does the power clone any equipment I'm carrying? If yes then I can get a single military uniform and a box of ammo before I start - if not the initial attack will have to be a human wave that captures an armory at least.

Once I'm rolling I will unironically do the "enemy at the gates" thing by having twice as many clones as I have rifles. If the man in front of you dies, clone yourself and pick up his weapon!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everyone keeps tell me to go fuck myself. Inonly need the one copy to live out that wish.

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just the one, we'd both sit around doing nothing. Get him to give me a hand job, it's not gay if it's you right?

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just one. I’d get twice as much software written, and amazing blowjobs.

However….. I’d need to make sure that They have a desire to obey me. Because I don’t do anything I don’t want to do, and I’d very quickly tell β€œme” to go fuck myself.

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have enough problems managing myself. I don't see any advantages to doubling the workload.

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[–] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

My biggest cost is rent, we can all sleep in a big-ass ratking, boys love threesomes without the trouble of figuring out who the third will be, AFAIK food costs scale in my favor if I got a second job and a third me for hobbies. We could claim to be twins but also rotate who's running the of and faking vacation etc, produce higher quality content more often and charge more for it. and 4-100 mees for dumpster-diving/terrorism. Are there limits? Are the copies permanent? I'd like to replace the government of my country and the power seems OP as I could just copy up and annex everything in cartoonishly massive human waves.

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

None. I don't think clones could satisfy my wishes. And I wouldn't want to burden them with a life.

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[–] essellburns@beehaw.org 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Two would be ideal.

Three would have greater benefits, greater complexity and problems.

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[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 9 points 9 months ago

Ah, Multiplicity. An underrated Michael Keaton comedy, IMO.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

You know that episode of Futurama, where Bender made near infinite copies of himself and nearly the destroyed the world?

Yeah that, but maybe a little slowly since I like to procrastinate.

[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I'm having an orgy with myself for sure.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

You mean feed and house more people on a single income and subject those people to this hellscape? No thanks.

Plus, is my clone really going to be fine with acting as a slave? Unlikely.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Just one. Cutting my work and responsibilities in half would be a significant improvement in my quality of life.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I almost can't imagine a reasonable upper bound. Maybe 1000? That would certainly be enough to be able to do some serious stuff.

The ability to sync memories and have the same experiences and past would be crazy. I could align myself and all the clones to a shared goal easily. With the amount of clones, I could do basically anything.

Only problem I can see is... is there a way to know the "original"? Would I be in control of my clones? Or would I myself just be another clone? I think I'd still go for something like 1000 even if I was just another clone.

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